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Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by elzbardico on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @01:14PM (#44446253)
Don't matter. You still have the debt. If you lose your job in a depression, odds are no much other people will be in the market to buy your home.
Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by hx8 on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @02:05PM (#44446921)
The amount of equity you have in your home matters. Most recessions do not take 20% off home values, so people with conventional loans are pretty safe. Even the Great Depression just cut valuations about 35%.

If you lose your job in a depression there will be plenty of people willing to buy assets at a discount. If you have equity in your home then your position will be net positive. About half of all mortgages have an outstanding balance less than 50% of the home's value.

Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by dmoy on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @09:07PM (#44450578)
That kinda works in the abstract, but it's pretty risky for any individual house. If your house was somehow a representative slice of all US housing, sure maybe it won't drop 35%.

But if you owned a house in Detroit from 2003-2010 it might have dropped 70-80%. Or, more on point for many on HN, if you own a house in the Bay Area worth $2-$3M with 25% equity, and the tech job market collapses, then you might get completely wiped out.

Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by const_cast on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @03:45PM (#44448013)
I think debt is good, actually, for most middle class households, and they're actively trying to increase their debt because that results in greater cash-flow, more savings, and more security in terms of retirement. That's why buying a home is Goal #1 for most Americans.
Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by brewdad on Thursday July 03, 2025 @12:05AM (#44451536)
Home mortgage debt is mostly "good" debt for middle class households. Pretty much any other type of debt is a net negative in financial terms. There are less tangible benefits to owning a newer, more reliable car for example, so it can be a bit murky. General consumption debt is a bad bet for pretty much anyone.
Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by spixy on Friday July 11, 2025 @11:05AM (#44532972)
What if I use debt to invest or to buy assets that increase productivity of my company?

Or for some loan you need to pay monthly 5% of your income (for iphone or car), and other loan need you to pay 50% of your income (mortgages). You cannot count them in the same way...

Re:Private sector lost 33k jobs, badly missing expectations ... by spixy on Friday July 11, 2025 @11:09AM (#44533015)
What if I use debt to invest?

Or for some loan you need to pay monthly 5% of your income (for iphone or car), and other loan need you to pay 50% of your income (mortgages). You cannot count them in the same way. And mortgage can have 1% interest rate or 6%...