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Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by mrcwinn on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:04AM (#44405183)
I love the Jewish community, so I don’t say this lightly, but I view Netanyahu actions as somewhat resembling Nazi Germany in one respect (though certainly not others). He may not believe Israeli Jews have a birthright to the whole world (rather they are trying to strengthen one nation’s borders), but there is no doubt in my mind they are indiscriminately cleansing a people out of existence. That is their aim, beyond simple deterrence or defense.

The October terror attack is not to be defended, but the response is disgusting behavior by the state of Israel. There’s nothing proportionate about this. Rather Israel sees this as an opportunity to strengthen its position and wipe out its enemies - and innocent men, women, and children.

In the United States, we talk about Israel as if it must be protected because it’s the Middle East’s only democracy. It is not a liberal democracy. It exists only to protect the rights of one type of people with one particular type of ethnicity. In America, we wouldn’t recognize this as a democracy.

For our part, it’s important to protect our own interests in the region and so yes, strange bedfellows. But given Netanyahu’s comfort with war crime, given Israel’s weak and distorted democratic institution, and given what nationalism can do to a country, we should be very careful to balance and diversify our interests.

Israel in another 10 years might not be recognizable. It’s cause for alarm.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by justin66 on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:14PM (#44405789)
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Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by edanm on Saturday June 28, 2025 @01:28PM (#44406472)
There are many protesting this government as we speak, as well.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by justin66 on Saturday June 28, 2025 @05:30PM (#44408332)
That must be a harrowing situation. It didn't exactly look safe and low stress before the war.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by edanm on Saturday June 28, 2025 @07:38PM (#44409099)
> That must be a harrowing situation. It didn't exactly look safe and low stress before the war.

If you mean in terms of the personal safety of the Israeli protesters, it's not dangerous or anything. Certainly nothing like the very brave people in Gaza protesting Hamas, who are actually living through hell, and who risk their lives by protesting.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by justin66 on Saturday June 28, 2025 @09:01PM (#44409502)
Thanks, I appreciate the info. I saw some photography and reporting of the protests the summer before the war (in Tel Aviv, I guess) that honestly looked a little worrying. In my memory, they were relying on the military to keep order.

Of course not comparable to Gaza.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by mrcwinn on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @03:14PM (#44447698)
Yes, I acknowledge this and it’s a good point. I just hope both sides can find peace and security. The humans of both sides deserve it. I just hope the leaders’ and politicians’ interests align with those whom they represent.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by leptons on Saturday June 28, 2025 @07:06PM (#44408898)
> It exists only to protect the rights of one type of people with one particular type of ethnicity. In America, we wouldn’t recognize this as a democracy.

But this is exactly what we have in America right now.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by decimalenough on Saturday June 28, 2025 @07:44PM (#44409127)
I'm not fan of the Trump administration, but nevertheless, no, it really isn't.

Arab citizens of Israel are systematically and legally discriminated against to an extent with no parallel in the US, and Arabs in the occupied territories (West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza) have effectively no rights at all.

Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by leptons on Sunday June 29, 2025 @08:46AM (#44412685)
They are coming for everyone that isn't white, christian, and voted for trump. Just check back on this comment in a year or two. These are fascists, there is nobody they won't demonize. Once they have run out of immigrants to incarcerate, and then trans and gay people, they will come after democrats.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by johnnyanmac on Saturday June 28, 2025 @07:28PM (#44409040)
Yeah, the narrative of America wanting to protect and maintain democracy has been completely crippled by its actions this year. It's an openly corupt oligarchy (as opposed to at least keeping a facade up for decades prior) for the short term present.
Re:IDF Soldiers Confess: Ordered to Shoot Unarmed Gazans at ... by maskil on Sunday June 29, 2025 @12:37AM (#44410390)
This is a repugnant statement.

It is in fact, the Arabs in the region, who have been waving a 100 year war to deny Jews autonomy in their historic homeland. Oct 7 was just a manifestation of this. They are an implacable enemy.

To the extent a minority on the far right want to them to leave, there is no racial or genocidal dimension, just a desire to expel an enemy