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Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by MSFT_Edging on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:15AM (#44347120)
Please note ICE is doing operations in blue cities against law abiding immigrants at hearings because to go after either actual criminals or the gun infested red areas would be a danger to life and limb.

Turns out, making yourself a more dangerous target works to an extent.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by erkt on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:34AM (#44347256)
ICE must cast a wide net in blue cities because they are not sharing data on the criminal undocumented residents. They are shielding the illegal migrants who are already in jail or released on bond. Red areas are not shielding their criminal element and there is less need for such a wide net. Sanctuary cities ignoring the constitution and delegation of powers to do whatever they want is causing much of the escalation.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by righthand on Sunday June 22, 2025 @11:39AM (#44347793)
You will love this amendment (14th) from the US Constitution then, it’s a banger with it’s opening text that describes how states are responsible for protecting the people in their borders and giving them due process, citizen or not:

> All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You know because it’s hard to make a case about being a country of rights, due process, law and order if you don’t extend that to the people within it’s borders.

The blue cities are enforcing the Constitution as sanctuary cities are legal laws of those states. The red states and federal government are violating it.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by nickff on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:37PM (#44348693)
>” The blue cities are enforcing the Constitution as sanctuary cities are legal laws of those states. The red states and federal government are violating it.”

There’s a supremacy clause, and it’s quite clear.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by righthand on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:13PM (#44349016)
The 14th Amendment is federal law that the States must protect the people within their borders through rights, due process, etc. by their own state laws. The Supremacy Clause is irrelevant.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by dreghgh on Sunday June 22, 2025 @11:03AM (#44347477)
Can you clarify which part of the constitution is being ignored here?
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by platevoltage on Monday June 23, 2025 @02:47AM (#44353106)
Glad to see this downvoted into oblivion until it’s barely readable. It’s like I’m reading the ramblings of one of Jesse Watter’s writers.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by bufferoverflow on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:26PM (#44348185)
> against law abiding immigrants

That's a lie. They broke the law when they entered the country illegally. Then some of them committed more crimes.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by johnnyanmac on Sunday June 22, 2025 @03:26PM (#44349572)
The immigrants in thr court houses are breaking the law? Sounds like a judge should determine that.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by bufferoverflow on Sunday June 22, 2025 @05:41PM (#44350538)
If they crossed the border illegally, yes, they broke the law. You don't need a judge to determine that.

Just like you don't need a judge to determine if someone drives without a driver's license.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by amanaplanacanal on Sunday June 22, 2025 @10:00PM (#44351875)
The judge determines whether or not they crossed the border illegally. Who did you think does that?
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by crooked-v on Sunday June 22, 2025 @03:15PM (#44349497)
Most immigration offenses are specifically not crimes, so that the government doesn't have to give the people involved legal proceedings.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by 8note on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:23PM (#44348582)
a different reason is that the red areas are currently in power, and have a say in where ICE deploys. its explicitly a civil war styled attack on blue state sovereignty, rather than anything about guns
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by refurb on Sunday June 22, 2025 @08:45PM (#44351512)
The federal government has exclusive and full power over immigration laws.

The states don’t have any sovereignty to make their own decisions about immigration.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by LeapingPanda on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:24PM (#44350802)
> operations ... against law abiding immigrants ...

Putting aside ICE tactics, if their immigration status is not legal, then by definition they are not law abiding citizens.

Unless you are privy the status of any planned or ongoing ICE operations against criminals, you have no idea what they are doing in that regard.

Law enforcement at all levels needs checks along with better direction in carrying out their duties. However, allowing people to continue living in an immigration limbo is not a solution. Sanctuary cities leave illegal immigrants unprotected.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by refurb on Sunday June 22, 2025 @08:44PM (#44351499)
I get the point but that’s not true at all.

There are plenty of guns in LA, and any ICE agent or cop would be dumb to assume those they are arresting are unarmed because “it’s against the law”.

The red cities don’t have sanctuary city rules in place, so local law enforcement helps ICE and the arrests don’t make the news.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by MSFT_Edging on Monday June 23, 2025 @06:44AM (#44354283)
That's why they're doing arrests at court houses instead of going after gang members