The Glorious Revolutionary Militia of country X, using Iranian built and supplied drones or missiles, blows up young American soldiers in a country half the electorate didn't even know there was a presence in. Iran disclaims all involvement, but says they sympathise with the legitimate frustration of the locals. Do you think the United States gets involved in a hot war against Iran based on that?
Remember the Beirut truck bombings. The biggest single day US Marine loss of life since Iwo Jima. Reagan (and Mitterand) immediately says there will be no withdrawal. They shoot a lot of artillery in the general direction of Hezbollah from a boat, then immediately withdraw all troops.
You're implying that a foreign power bombing Iran would make the people less likely to support their government. Do you have justification for that?
Are you sure about that now? Did you miss the part where your president was openly discussing plans on annexing territories from it's allies?
Ah, the American exceptionalism..
USA is the most murderous country in the world, by far
I think you're underestimating how many Iranians the CIA allowed to be tortured and raped in the Shahist regime. Agree to disagree?
Socialists who kept supporting khomeini after it became very clear that he sent in thugs to murder his own supporters, so he could blame "zionists" for the killings, or that he sent snipers into a protest to fire from within the crowd at security services ... I mean socialists use tactics like that even today, although of course compared to khomeini even the KGB look like gentle souls.
That's one reason everything about Iran's theocratic regime is called "revolutionary this", "the supreme blahblah council", or the double army structure, the reason that a theocracy has a ministry of labour (which unions are forced to be part of, you know, like the soviet union) ... it was created and organized by socialists. They came to power through student protests and union strikes.
Then khomeini started executing them. First, 3800 at once, then between 300 and 1000 every year. Khamenei is dutifully continuing the islamist executions. This year is definitely going to be 5000+ executions.
You know how many deaths are actually attributed to the evil interference of the US in Iran before the revolution? What socialists tried to fix? The reason they supported the mass-murdering clerics?
... 89 people.
I get that the whole world likes to blame the CIA for Iran ... despite of course socialists (by which I mean the socialist international, as well as socialists in the sense of worldwide protests) of course having much more to do with the rise of the Iranian regime, and indeed supporting the Iranian regime even after it became clear that they like to attack, even kill, their own people just for propaganda. That does not make the Sha's actions ok ... I get that, but the point was that they do not compare. But more: even if I'm wrong, why would that be humiliating?
Also: I'm a geek. Perhaps a bit older but not (much) different. I do not really feel much if everyone disagrees with me. That happens regularly, and whilst I'm definitely wrong on occasion, I've done very well disagreeing with everyone too.