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Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by YZF on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:03PM (#44343074)
This doesn't sound right to me. Sources?

One data point I heard recently was 80% of Iranians oppose the current regime. That said I've also heard there is wide support for Iran to have a nuclear program. Presumably as a matter of national pride. I would still imagine the secular population to be less inclined to go to war with Israel in general.

The only Iranians I've personally talked to are ones that live in the west. They generally want to have peace with Israel and want to see the regime removed. Again very anecdotally they are still not happy about Israel bombing Iran but if the regime is actually somehow magically removed I don't think attacking Israel would be a high priority for a hypothetical secular or democratic regime.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by tdeck on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:47PM (#44343366)
The fact that someone dislikes their government's current ruling regime doesn't mean they want the US to invade and install a puppet government instead. It's a false dichotomy.

> if the regime is actually somehow magically removed I don't think attacking Israel would be a high priority

Attacking Israel hasn't been a high priority for Iran. When Israel bombed an Iranian consulate, Iran referred it to the security council and waited, but the security council took no action. When Israel carries out an assassination within Iran, Iran did the same thing. Only after the UN refused to do anything to hold Israel to account did Iran retaliate. Then recently Israel launched a massive series of strikes against Iran, assassinating top members of its military and blowing up apartment buildings. It seems clear that the Iranian government didn't want to go to war with Israel, but at a certain point they ran out of options.

First letter: https://digitallibrary.un.org/nanna/record/4043282/files/A_7...

Second letter: https://digitallibrary.un.org/nanna/record/4055716/files/S_2...

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by throwaway2037 on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:25AM (#44343606)

    > Attacking Israel hasn't been a high priority for Iran.
Really?

It is interesting that you made no mention of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, not Houthi in Yemen. All are well-known proxies for Iran to militarily harass Israel. They all receive direct funds and weapons from Iran.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by sebmellen on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:28AM (#44343630)
lol. Watch Khameni’s morning broadcast where they have hundreds of delusional adherents shouting “Death to America, Death to Israel” 50 times in a row. I’m sure you’ll come out feeling the same way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqu0L0PGOIw

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by tdeck on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:37AM (#44343681)
Those are words. None of this refutes the clear pattern of escalations I described coming from Israel.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by firesteelrain on Sunday June 22, 2025 @12:51AM (#44343762)
It’s called defense
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by zorobo on Sunday June 22, 2025 @05:13AM (#44345323)
And mein kampf was a book
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by netsharc on Sunday June 22, 2025 @07:43AM (#44346084)
Result 5 of 9 for "Death to America".

Do you like it when people quote you out of context? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44342393

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by golol on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:02AM (#44344212)
Iran has been attacking Israelthrough its proxies. Israel struck the Iranian consulate in a country they're at war with meeting proxies they're at war with. This is indeed an escalation. As a response Iran launched a huge number of ballistic missiles and drones at Israel, which is a major eacalation and direct attack.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by 8note on Sunday June 22, 2025 @04:20PM (#44349954)
more than 50% of americans oppose the current US regime[0] but thats not descriptive of wanting to tear the whole setup down

[0] https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker