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Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by ItCouldBeWorse on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @02:55PM (#44312382)
> A good laptop, but not a good value

One of my mentors had the great sentence: "I dont buy laptops- they suck, because they are tailored to transport. I buy desktops- and connect them via internet to flat transportable terminals. And desktops can be upgraded, merged, reused and send to the closet as server at the EOL-"

And he was kind of right. For almost all purposes, even for gaming in a way- a remote desktop is kind of superior. Yes, stadia is dead- but for everything else- this shall do.

Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by patwoz on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:11PM (#44312527)
Nah, it’s ok for browsing the internet and for „slow“ games but for anything else it sucks
Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by atrus on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:05PM (#44312472)
Using Steam Streaming/Moonlight-Sunlight/Tailscale is a dream for remote gaming.
Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by ItCouldBeWorse on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:10PM (#44312518)
You are absolutely right- forgive me, im kind of out of touch with the whole steam revolutionizing gaming on linux.

I think the comment about the "transporttax" on hardware, ergonomic and cooling still holds up though even in a world where things like steam-deck exist.

Even more so, if you may have lightweight ar-headsets one day, with a glorified cellphone + mouse and keyboard.

Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by ItCouldBeWorse on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:12PM (#44312528)
One could argue, that the "reusability" of the laptopbricks, in a desktop-server blade like structure is the biggest argument for the framework as a laptop though.
Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by mac-attack on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @03:15PM (#44312561)
I am of the same mind. Desktop for heavy lifting and a mid-range Chromebook (technically a chrultrabook now) for browsing w/ a lightweight yet modern feel.

I do think the plunge to leveraging a desktop/server across devices does require an understanding of ssh/rdp and tailscale/reverse proxies though, which is why it isn't as popular as it could be.

Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by arccy on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @04:26PM (#44313021)
Reliability of Internet is also a problem
Re:Framework Laptop 12: I'm excited to see what the 2nd gene... by krior on Thursday June 19, 2025 @05:13AM (#44316822)
Maybe you live somewhere with crazy-stable, ultra-low-latency internet covering every little nook and cranny you could ever care to find yourself in, but I doubt this is the case for most of the world. Until we realize this utopia globally a remote desktop setup is simply not flexible enough.