Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024)

Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by glitchc on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:00PM (#44302619)

> Just as there is a clear winner for video - av1 - there seems to be nothing in the way of "this is clearly the future, at least for the next few years" when it comes to encoding images.

Say what? A random scan across the internet will reveal more videos in MP4 and H.264 format than av1. Perhaps streaming services have switched, but that is not what regular consumers usually use to make and store movies.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by CharlesW on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:10PM (#44302733)

New compressed media formats always travel a decade-long path from either (1) obscurity → contender → universal support or (2) obscurity → contender → forgotten curiosity. AV1 is on one path, WebP is on another.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by Andrex on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:34PM (#44302981)

As someone who doesn't follow this stuff, which is on which path?

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by CharlesW on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:03PM (#44303333)

WebP remains fairly esoteric after 15 years, has always been a solution in search of a problem, and isn’t even universally supported in products by its owner.

AV1 was created and is backed by many companies via a non-profit industry consortium, solves real problems, and its momentum continues to grow. https://bitmovin.com/blog/av1-playback-support/

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by graealex on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:53AM (#44309470)

Funnily enough, JPEG2000-support was eventually removed everywhere. I assume the only reason this didn't happen with WebP as well is Google pushing and keeping it in Chrome.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by wongarsu on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @09:57AM (#44309949)

Also the Google's lighthouse benchmark pushing webp recommendations, and people listening to it because of SEO concerns

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by graealex on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @10:16AM (#44310114)

True. I mentioned JPEG2000 because it had a similar fate, in particular no real reason to use it in the first place.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by modeless on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:49PM (#44303160)

AV1 is on the path to universal support and WebP is on the path to obscurity.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by tedunangst on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:37PM (#44303666)

Apple CPUs have AV1 support in hardware.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by consp on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @06:44PM (#44304792)

So does every modern GPU. This is nothing special.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by airstrike on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @10:26PM (#44306123)

I think you're arguing the same point—that there's plenty of support and it's arguably growing.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by zimpenfish on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @01:25AM (#44306893)

Only support for decoding and from A17 Pro and M3 onwards, I believe? Going to be a few years before that's commonly available (he says from the work M1 Pro.)

[edit: clarify that it's decoding only]

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by Izkata on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:06PM (#44302689)

Yeah, I think I only just found out about av1 a few weeks ago with a video file that wouldn't play. Thought it was corrupted at first it's been so long since I saw something like that.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by ksec on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @08:09PM (#44305360)

And H.264 is about to be patent free this year in many places.

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Re:Why JPEGs Still Rule the Web After 30 Years (2024) by userbinator on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @12:01AM (#44306548)

I suspect there are even more H.265 than av1.

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