Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ihuk on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:27AM (#44256390)

There's a better, longer video on Reddit. At the beginning of the video, it sounds like the Ram Air Turbine (RAT) is deployed, which would suggest a dual engine failure.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by Simon_O_Rourke on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:30AM (#44256417)

Dual engine failure with a stall right at the end as it's going in.

Guessing it's either a foreign object ingested into both engines, probably a bird strike, or fuel starvation.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ihuk on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:39AM (#44256480)

Here's a Reddit video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shant...

And here's a YouTube video showing a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) being deployed on a 787 for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by Simon_O_Rourke on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:46AM (#44257137)

I'm assuming the Ram Air Turbine gives extra evidence of a dual engine failure (or at least the engine that generated power). Engine spools down, power is lost, air turbine needs to be deployed.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ihuk on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:13AM (#44258067)

Yeah, I believe the RAT is automatically deployed when both engines fail or when there's a critical loss of pressure in the hydraulic systems.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ExoticPearTree on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:29AM (#44257570)

I don't see the RAT deployed on the video on Reddit. Can you tell the timestamp to zoom in? I'm super curious.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by consp on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:01AM (#44257924)

Those things are tiny and very transparent (since it's pretty much a propeller) and video compression, plus it's a video of a screen, will eat it up against a clear sky.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ihuk on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:05AM (#44257979)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=...

It could be the blurry object under the fuselage, just to the right of the left engine.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by ExoticPearTree on Friday June 13, 2025 @08:42AM (#44267993)

From another video, the RAT on the 787 is on the right.

New videos came out and so far the prevailing theory is that flaps were retracted too soon. Most likely instead of gear up.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by lormayna on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:38AM (#44256473)

Going OT: why a parody account of Italian PM is tweeting a video about an airplane accident in India? Really weird

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by snickerbockers on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:15AM (#44256855)

Sometimes it's hard to tell the truth about what obviously just happened so all you can bear to do is say something unreasonably optimistic.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by gsky on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:12AM (#44256833)

People always tweet trending stuff for popularity as simple as that

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by lormayna on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:16AM (#44256861)

But this seems a "first hand" content, not a retweet.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by xeromal on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:06AM (#44257346)

Could be something as simple as a follower sending the video to the account knowing it will be shared

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by account42 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @11:50AM (#44259145)

It could simply be reposted from another site or downloaded from a tweet and uploaded without attribution.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by captn3m0 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:50AM (#44256602)

The account is run from India.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by uncircle on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:58AM (#44256665)

That raises even more questions.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by arandomusername on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:05AM (#44257343)

It's very common, ever since twitter added monetization. It makes the site a lot more unbearable.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by thatloststudent on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:06AM (#44257981)

Not really, this is more of an internet meme [1].

[1] - https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-it...

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by potato3732842 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:27AM (#44258218)

To be fair, you kinda gotta be on the outside of something to make good humor about it.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by pjc50 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @09:46AM (#44257759)

Because Twitter is a very weird and inauthentic place.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by snickerbockers on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:13AM (#44256837)

jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best.

Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to attempt an emergency landing immediately after leaving the runway but at least there aren't a bunch of homes and office buildings.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by navigate8310 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:59AM (#44257284)

This is India we are talking about. The population density and surrounding encroachment is usually why even small domestic cylinder blast could take lives of 100s.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by placardloop on Thursday June 12, 2025 @10:42AM (#44258395)

No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by snickerbockers on Thursday June 12, 2025 @12:10PM (#44259369)

that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i....

I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by placardloop on Thursday June 12, 2025 @01:01PM (#44260018)

There’s a massive, incredibly dense neighborhood of houses and offices less than 1000 feet to the south, west, and north of every one of SFOs runways.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by Ar-Curunir on Thursday June 12, 2025 @01:37PM (#44260427)

SFO is surrounded by numerous highways, office buildings, and residential areas

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by snickerbockers on Thursday June 12, 2025 @03:15PM (#44261944)

well yeah but im talking about the part where the planes land not the terminal.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by dghlsakjg on Friday June 13, 2025 @10:59AM (#44269136)

There runway thresholds are closer to the neighborhoods than the entire terminal except a few A terminal gates.

Go look at a satellite view of SFO.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by dghlsakjg on Thursday June 12, 2025 @02:28PM (#44261148)

It is 400m from the threshold of 19L/1R to the nearest residential neighborhood at SFO. LGA, which is an incredibly urban airport has the exact same distance from the end of its closest runway to the nearest residential area.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by dghlsakjg on Thursday June 12, 2025 @02:21PM (#44261005)

They put airports where there is room to put them. Frequently that means that they are well outside cities since finding space for a few 2 mile runways in the city is difficult.

However, there are plenty of airports in major cities and built up areas (in both developed and developing countries), and I have never heard of avoiding building in areas due to the (remote) possibility of crashes.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by roncesvalles on Thursday June 12, 2025 @04:18PM (#44262709)

Most major airports were established long ago (sometimes centuries ago) in land that used to be remote. Cities eventually expand into the surrounding area.

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by hnpolicestate on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:20AM (#44256334)

Did the Italian PM really say "I pray all passengers are safe" after posting that fireball?

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by AHTERIX5000 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:21AM (#44256345)

It seems to be a parody account

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Re:Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more... by aaldrick on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:21AM (#44256343)

its a parody account

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