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Millions of foreigners will increase the price of housing. They have to live somewhere.
Another way is wage suppression. By importing millions of foreigners, it drives the labour wages down as now they have to compete with others. This means that they may not be able to afford to start a family, and makes single income family unrealistic.
I have no problem with having neighbour of a different ethnicity. I interact with other ethnicities daily, and they are great people. My problem is with MASS immigration.
is absolutely happening. That's why Europeans are becoming a lower percentage of the population in their own countries.
> 1. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Lower the birth rate of the group while importing foreigners to replace them.
> > 2. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Unaffordable housing, suppressing wages to make single income households impossible for most. Both contributed to by mass immigration.
The native people of Europe deserve their homeland to remain theirs. Access to European lands to other ethnicities is not a right.
Confederates weren't importing slaves (Let's just say there's a reason why slave auctions were often closed on Saturdays), but anyway, it's a different analogy since the slaves were not participating in society. They were slaves. They imported them knowing their kids will not share schools, they will not share restaurants, etc. They were imported with the impression they will not become American citizens. The millions of Indian workers have a pathway to greencard, or often they have children which become US citizens.
If you want to claim that Elon is racist despite him wanting millions of foreigners, you have to provide strong support for your claim.
If the population is decreasing, then let it. There will be a new equillibrium where people are repopulating at replacement rate, just lower than current population. But if we continue to import millions of foreign people, that equillibrium will never be found as the country is slowly destroyed.
> many men are becoming politically incompatible to women
It's actually women that are becoming super liberal. Men are more even more liberal now than they were 50 years ago.
> Figureheads like Andrew Tate spread brain rot that men are owed relationships
Yeah I don't think he ever said anything of that sort. I don't like him and I find him immoral, but I don't believe he is the problem here.
> encourage that they demonstrate the worst concepts of masculinity imaginable
That's untrue. Women seek leaders and strong men.
> So white women are increasingly pursuing happiness through careers and friends and hobbies instead
Anti-depressant use in white women is at it's highest, and I think they are the number one consumer? So doesn't seem like that pursuit of happiness is working out for them.
> And they're not having kids until they feel ready
True, by the time they want to have kids they are too old. A lot of them don't realize there's a biological clock.
> What would you do? Force them into marriages they don't want and impregnate them against their will? This is how freedom works.
Stop importing foreigners to replace them? If the population decreases, then let it.
Genocide usually occurs against a certain group of people, "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". White, or Europeans, are an ethnical and racial group.
> I'm left not understanding your point then. I should be afraid because humans with one shade of skin are populating faster than humans with another?
My point is that the native people of Europe, are being systematically replaced with foreign people. Conditions are being put on Europeans where births are reduced and are instead being replaced by another group.
I will only speak for Europeans, saying white Europeans is redundant btw.
It's simple, to rectify the problem: You stop immigration from non-European nations. You deport those with a criminal history (yeah, there's a lot of them). You deport those that are not a net positive on the economy and take welfare. You don't extend visas for non-skilled labour (e.g taxis, uber eats). Then anyone who fails to assimilate also gets deported.
That's my logical conclusion. Why don't we follow the current way/your way? European population continues to decrease, while we import millions of foreigners. Eventually, Europeans die out. Genocide.
I am using UN's definition of genocide. Mainly those two are in effect:
1. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
2. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
As well as the mental element:
A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such";
Culture is not evolving, nor is assimilation happening. It is the replacement of the native people with foreign. White genocide.
LGB and trans are different things. Can you provide your source for "comparable to the rate of political violence against LGBT in the US"? Genuinely interested to see, I'm not aware of any widespread violence against LGBT in US.
The white population percentage is decreasing in almost every white country. In Britain, British are the minority in one in four schools. At current trend, whites will be minorities in their countries in the next few decades.
In Germany, Germans make up 74% of the population.
In France, it's about 63%.
And those are on the downtrend. They will continue to decrease. What is it if not white genocide?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/07/white-british-ch...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/07/white-british-ch...
What else do you call the replacement of the native people with another group of people?
It's refreshing to see that the Kagi founder isn't on a political correctness crusade and chooses to focus on product.
Anyone that doesn't share your view is a bot, nice.
Please show me where he is endorsing antisemitism, and no, that one reply to that tweet about anti-white doesn't count just because they mentioned Jews.
https://x.com/search?q=from%3Aelonmusk%20israel&src=typed_qu...
https://x.com/search?q=from%3Aelonmusk%20netanyahu&src=typed...
Sure looks like he's slobbering over Israel though, a Jewish state.
Similarly, show me where he is endorsing racism.
> However, I understand that people on the right don't believe anything is racist or antisemitic unless it's something the Democrats are doing or saying, so I can at least accept that as the standard talking point.
Nice generalization. It's no better than those saying "people on the left are racist/antisemitic!". Let's stick to facts. Show me where he is being racist/antisemitic.
> It's not surprising that you also believe what is unequivocally a Nazi salute is "my heart goes out to you".
Even ADL agreed that it wasn't a nazi salute. It doesn't make sense for him to throw up a nazi salute and then be defended by the biggest pro-jewish organization.
> As far as the censorship goes, just google something like "elon musk silences critics" for many examples
I only found examples of people that are already unbanned or him suing some organization for organizing a boycott. Like I said, it's not perfect, and he does ban people in tantrums, but it's still the most free mainstream platform.
> i strongly believe so, so write me off now i guess
So do you see now why free speech is important, and that censoring content under vague labels like "harmful" or "worthless greed" isn't actually good, since a pro capitalist government can consider your statements as such?
> that's bait, but fine. by whom? to whom? don't bring up vague hypotheticals if you're not willing to defend their conclusions.
Bait how? Current US administration considers it harmful. Conservatives consider it harmful. The average person few decades considered it harmful.
Then you have to make a very strong case of him being racist. Racists don't usually want to flood their country with foreigners.
> which opposing view? let's be specific. some views are actually based in antisocial, harmful, selfish, worthless greed and we don't have to platform them.
And who decides what views are antisocial, harmful, selfish, worthless greed? Is capitalism worthless greed? Trans can be considered harmful by some. Communism/Socialism is considered harmful by others. None of those should be banned.
To be specific, one view that gets you banned is talking about the overwhelming influence that "Israel" has over United States, media, news and politics/government.
Ah yeah, he's so racist that he wants millions of foreigners in his country. It makes absolute no sense. You also haven't even provided any reasoning for him being racist.
> Google "you have said the actual truth" for one
That one is actual truth btw. But of course, in true "Nazi" fashion, he did an apology tour in Israel and in auswitzch.
It's funny how the claims of nazi links is always far reaching at straws. Oh he replied "you have said the actual truth" to someone on twitter talking about white hatred. Or he did a "nazi salute" while saying my heart goes out to you! Always nothing of substance. Nothing he does is pro 'nazi'. Importing millions of foreigners as a nazi is like being a jewish nazi btw. Goes completely against the ideaology.
I don't like elon musk but calling him racist/a nazi is just completely wrong.
> In other words, you don't actually care about censorship, you just have an axe to grind.
No, I care about censoring people's views and opinions and not censoring links to other platforms. If you can't see the difference then you are being dishonest.
> And yet Twitter regularly silences critics while propping up sycophants
No it doesn't regularly silence critics. Sometimes he will temporarily ban someone in his tantrum. Like I said, not perfect, but far better than any other mainstream social media. Regular stuff on twitter would get you insta banned elsewhere.
Elon thinks racism is based? Same Elon that wants millions of indians with H1-B visas? Is that the far right view?
> is generally supportive of Nazi talking points which he is wont to retweet.
Like what?
> That's literally systematic censorship. The fact that you so flippantly dismiss it says a lot about your intellectual honesty on the topic.
Censoring competitor platforms is the least of my concerns when it comes to censorship. I am much more concerned about opposing views being silenced.
Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol. Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs. Who cares about linking to competitor platforms?
Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional. "Controversial" (e.g alex jones, nick fuentes) people can't even make an account on other social media sites
Ye (formerly Kanye West) (@kanyewest), rapper
I did say it's not perfect. but out of all mainstream social media platforms, twitter is the least censored
supporting afd does not make him a nazi, nor is afd a nazi party.
Elon supports Netanyahu and Israel, a jewish state.
Elon is not a socialist, nor a nationalist. Elon is more free speech (not perfect) while Nazis are big on censorship. He is opposite to Nazi idealogy in most cases, specially the most important parts