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Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by lordofgibbons on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:33AM (#44235015)
I wish there was a fund we could pool money into to make LibreOffice less ugly to look at. I'll happily donate to the cause.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by letters90 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:45AM (#44235580)
If denmark was to successfully adopt libreoffice they would probably invest in its upkeep aswell

Preventing another migration is a cost reduction in itself

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by mikl on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:48AM (#44235141)
That’s the nice thing about Open Source. Nothing’s stopping you from organizing this yourself.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by neepi on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:56AM (#44235213)
This is the standard voice of someone who's never had to deal with a badly maintained or managed open source product or an asshole maintainer or had to run a fork for 6 years because no one will merge a trivial fix in. Or had a LibreOffice bug open for a decade.

Yeah I can really get in there and spend 2 years ripping the horrible UI out, then have to run a fork because it's not of interest to the maintainers and will never be merged.

At that point I'll just use MS office. Costs me 10 minutes salary a month.

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by mmooss on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:21AM (#44235401)
I don't understand these stories: Do people talk to the maintainer before they work on the change? If not, why not? It seems necessary and obvious to get people on board before you invest in something.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by dgrin91 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:27AM (#44235449)
If you can get a discussion going with the maintainer, which is not a guarantee (cant speak to libre maintainers, but I know other projects like this), then you have to convince them that your change is both valuable and reasonable for them to maintain. The latter part there is key - they are _maintain_ers. You write the code once and then run off. If you write some new UI in some fancy framework then they have to live with it forever and learn a new framework to support it. Its a big cost for them, so on smaller projects maintainers can get defensive/grumpy
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by pietervdvn on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:34AM (#44235505)
As such a maintainer: you hit the nail on the head.

Add to that an infinite stream of bug reports and feature requests, and it gets tiring. I don't even have the time to answer all bug reports...

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by neepi on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:32AM (#44235493)
Yes. Lucky if you even get noticed.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by lukan on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:57AM (#44235692)
I talked once to the OpenOffice maintainers (there was no LibreOffice yet) - they were really open for contributions.

But I still did not contribute, because their understanding of a good UI was not what I had in mind.

They are office people.

(At least at that time, but I don't think that changed)

And I was used to how graphical design software worked. I would have had to fork and that was out of my scope.

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by worthless-trash on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:01AM (#44235250)
But you can't fix that one either.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by neepi on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:12AM (#44235336)
I haven't found anything that needs fixing.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by Iulioh on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:24AM (#44235426)
Man, I hate how excel behave a lot of times but I thank God everyday that it exists.

On the backend while writing macros you discover a lot of...interesting choices

Like how sometimes my macros failed because it does not interface with the regional formatting of the system (had to take 0.34 and convert it to 0,34 by converting it to string). The reverse is not necessary.

How value and value2 exists as property of a cell (I will bet whatever you want that it was a temporary name) and how the "value" behavior is dogshit.

How stuff is hyper advanced but stuff that SHOULD work does not....

It's an interesting look at it.

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by adamors on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:09AM (#44235793)
Not everyone has an extra 20 hours a week to contribute to open source, and I'm assuming a project as big as LibreOffice has a lot of non-technical hurdles in place for anyone new. It's perfectly reasonable to donate to people already working on it tho.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by grues-dinner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:48AM (#44235606)
Laughs in Wayland.

Sometimes no amount or organising or doing the work yourself can move things forward appreciably.

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by kwk1 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:18AM (#44235377)
The converse of this is the bad thing about open source. Although seemingly nothing's stopping people sometimes, somehow stuff still tend not to get done.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by ForHackernews on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:53AM (#44235181)
He didn't want to do work himself, he wanted to contribute monetarily and have the desired outcome provided to him. That's the not-nice thing about Open Source.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by WindyMiller on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:03AM (#44235263)
The comment said 'organizing this', not doing the development work. That could mean crowdfunding to fund development of the desired outcome.

A faff, of course, but perhaps a better deal than contributing monetarily to Microsoft to have Copilot shoved in your face instead of the features you actually want.

Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by ForHackernews on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @08:31AM (#44246921)
organizing is by far more difficult work than coding.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by WindyMiller on Friday June 13, 2025 @08:53AM (#44268065)
You can crowdfund for a project manager!
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by LadyCailin on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:17AM (#44235368)
Opportunity cost can’t be ignored, and that is absolutely a huge cost.
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by MaurizioPz on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:22AM (#44235935)
Might not be what you are looking for, but I missed this option for a LONG time, so, in case you don't know, you can enable tabbed ribbon interface in LibreOffice, and I think it looks better. https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-ribbon-interface/
Re:The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Lin... by extraduder_ire on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:39PM (#44241220)
I've switched to mainly using the onlyoffice suite (AGPL3) a few years ago for UI/UX reasons. Don't know why people act like libreoffice is the only game in town.