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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by alphager on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @11:43AM (#44117242)
Seeing that telegram is clear text by default, you should consider alternatives that offer end to end encryption by default.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by paxys on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @11:57AM (#44117425)
End-to-end encryption isn't going to help if the chatbot/data harvester is embedded in the app itself.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by bboygravity on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @12:36PM (#44117807)
Or if the endpoints are mostly pwned by NSA at all times (Android, Windows).
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by harg on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @11:50AM (#44117331)
It's not clear text by default, it's just not end-to-end encrypted. Messages are still encrypted between client and server.

I agree about considering alternatives though.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by crop_rotation on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @11:59AM (#44117449)
> Messages are still encrypted between client and server.

This is just a clever way of saying they use TLS, which I would be shocked if any mainstream app is not using.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by malfist on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @12:06PM (#44117525)
Don't look under the hood at sms then
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by crop_rotation on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @12:10PM (#44117567)
SMS is never claiming to be E2E nor is any army of SMS defenders online talking about how some virtue of SMS is almost same as E2E. While I don't like Telegram I will happily admit it is better than SMS, but how is that an argument for anything.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by Sohcahtoa82 on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @01:17PM (#44118295)
SMS isn't an app, it's a protocol that was created in 1992.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by jazzyjackson on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @11:55AM (#44117407)
Ok so theyre plaintext on the server, encrypted in transit just means https
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by Spooky23 on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @12:40PM (#44117854)
Is the server -> FSB connection encrypted?
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