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Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by oezi on Monday May 19, 2025 @05:28AM (#44027928)
> Price is 3-4 times higher but it lasts 5-10 times longer

The problem is that if an Ikea furniture lasts 15 years then that's enough. People no longer need 50-100 years furniture, because nobody wants to inherit old stuff anymore.

Life's circumstances change faster and buying quality often isn't worth it. Maybe a Miele dishwasher last twice as long at double the price. But it will become old after 10 years even so.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Cthulhu_ on Monday May 19, 2025 @06:24AM (#44028228)
> People no longer need 50-100 years furniture, because nobody wants to inherit old stuff anymore.

I'm going to challenge this assertion: did anyone, ever? Looking around in my parents' house (retirement age), there's no furniture from their parents (post-WW2). I don't remember whether my grandparents had any furniture of their parents in use either.

I do recall going to the charity shops and finding older wooden furniture; while I recognize it as better quality as what you can get today, at the same time it's no longer useful today. TV cabinets (with doors) for CRT TVs and video tapes, writing tables, those kinds of things are obsolete. Tables are timeless though.

But also, over time a lot of that old furniture was either destroyed or bought up and exported. What you find in the charity stores near me today is mostly 90's and onwards.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by lmm on Monday May 19, 2025 @06:48AM (#44028374)
> did anyone, ever?

Yes. Pre-railroad people mostly didn't move and inheriting furniture was extremely helpful. Go back earlier and the cost of buying your own furniture would have been prohibitive.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Semaphor on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:28AM (#44028633)
> Looking around in my parents' house (retirement age), there's no furniture from their parents (post-WW2). I don't remember whether my grandparents had any furniture of their parents in use either.

My parents are both 70+, they have 3 big cabinets from their parents, made from solid wood. I’d not mind having them in the right place. They look and handle great, only the drawers could use some finetuning ;)

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by JKCalhoun on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:57AM (#44028851)
Beds, tables, chairs. Only "style" has changed.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by bluGill on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:30AM (#44029135)
More than style. Humans are generally taller than in the past (a good diet will do that) and thus old furniture won't fit the modern body.

A modern mattress won't fit on the old fame and will be more comfortable. If you replace the stuffing of the old mattress maybe it will be as good.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by dagw on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:45AM (#44029269)
Beds I disagree with. Modern high end mattresses are far more comfortable and ergonomic than old mattresses.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by johnisgood on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:54AM (#44029958)
I have a >40 years old spring bed. I prefer it over modern beds, but I have never had the luxury to try out modern high end mattresses though.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by johnisgood on Monday May 19, 2025 @01:32PM (#44032354)
Why the down-vote? I do have a >40 years old spring bed, and these "modern" beds I can get from Jysk or Ikea (or wherever it was gotten from) are awful in comparison, in fact, one of them broke after a month of use (with my ex) (it cost ~222 USD) and most modern beds I have laid on, they were all too hard for me, unlike the spring bed. The mattresses might be good, however. I have not tried the memory foam ones, for one.

sighs.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by prawn on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:30PM (#44036124)
It might be because you're making a judgement about preference when you haven't actually tried modern mattresses and (presumably) toppers?
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by johnisgood on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:17PM (#44037140)
I literally said I have not tried modern mattresses though. I am sure they are great, and I have always wanted to get one.

I have tried new beds (granted, not as expensive ones) and they were worse than the 40 years old spring bed I have.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by bluGill on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:28AM (#44029113)
My grandpa had in his attic letters from his great grandpa (great great?? not sure how many generations)'s brother back in Germany, written around 1860. The letters were in the old script not used anymore, and language (Not German, but I'm not sure what it was). Grandpa got them translated and then following the addresses discovered some [great...] granddaughter was living in the house so he sent he a copy of the letters. She then found some cabinet described in the letter and was able to find it in the barn. Until she got the letter that cabinet was meaningless to her, but now that she knows the history it is an important part of her house.

This somehow a point in your question, but I leave it to others to figure out what.

Grandpa donated the letters to the local historical society so they are accessible, though I'm not sure how.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by nmcfarl on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:51AM (#44029330)
My stepmother (in her 60s) inherited or rather lot of furniture from her parents, enough to furnish most of a house. It’s spectacular and at this point it has to be well over 100 years old. She both wanted it and has lived with it daily for coming on 40 years.

And my wife inherited three pieces from her parents and they make up much of our dining room, and her uncle gave her two pieces that he made by hand, and that did not fit into his new house. I was dubious about the stuff from her parents, but it’s beautiful if dated and we’ve gone with a very “eclectic” decorating style, no room has to look like any other room. And now I’m very grateful for all of it.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by kiney on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:11AM (#44029483)
actually most of my furniture is either inheritend (mostly from my grandpa and an aunt) or just "was there" in the old house (1835) I bought... Couldn't imagine living with modern Ikea junk.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by mixmastamyk on Monday May 19, 2025 @12:21PM (#44031459)
Ikea has a range. If you choose the junk aimed at dorm rooms you got what you paid for. The rest sells easily at moving time, being a known commodity.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by kiney on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:02PM (#44036318)
even the highest and ikea stuff is still complete junk.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by mixmastamyk on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @04:17PM (#44045480)
BS. Let me guess... you are one of those "connoisseurs" who looks down on products that are a good value.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24829405

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by modo_mario on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:34AM (#44030342)
My entire house is filled with mostly inherited stuff. I'm frugal and grew up between both lower and old money upper class but i have to say if you can make it look coherent it's fine and has saved me tons. Where it isn't it's a mix and match of thrifted high quality and low quality stuff.

My electric standing desk and chair being one of those modern things that costed a couple of thousands but i got secondhand for a combined 200. The desk is built like a tank. For the chair i replaced the cracking armrest covers with leather.

I also have some hardwood old tables and cabinets that are a couple generations old and as functional now as they were back then.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Aeolun on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:13AM (#44030732)
Our house is full of second-hand 50s furniture though. At least some of it gets a second life, even if not from the children.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by bobbruno on Monday May 19, 2025 @04:21PM (#44034385)
I am responding to this from my living room in Berlin, sitting on a sofa that belonged to my father, after having dined on a table he inherited from my grandfather. Both were brought with us when we moved from Brazil.

So yes, people do want to inherit the old stuff. I have some IKEA stuff (the beds were just too big, and mattress sizes are different), it just can't compare.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rsynnott on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:35AM (#44029173)
> Maybe a Miele dishwasher last twice as long at double the price. But it will become old after 10 years even so.

It... won't support the new dishes that come out in the 2030s?

Like, other than energy efficiency (and this is basically already into diminishing returns for appliances like dishwashers), what must-have progress are you expecting?

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by alexey-salmin on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:40AM (#44029233)
It won't require the Wi-Fi connection to operate (so definitely a reason to stick to my 12 years old appliances)

I'm not even joking: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43463200

> It says options with an asterisk—including Rinse, Machine Care (self-cleaning), HalfLoad, Eco, and Delay start, are "available through Home Connect app only and depending on your model."

This is happening now.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rsynnott on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:09AM (#44029469)
Yeah, I mean obviously don't buy a dishwasher with a wifi connection, come on now. But that's not mandatory.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by mixmastamyk on Monday May 19, 2025 @12:28PM (#44031534)
Forgot the cloud account and app only available from BigTech platforms.

Don’t buy—well just like cars they are taking that less-profitable choice away.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Kirby64 on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:49AM (#44029893)
Funny enough, that’s on the low end Bosch dishwasher. Their 800 series (which is essentially 2x the price) has no such restrictions because I guess they can “afford” to put the extra buttons on it.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by wahnfrieden on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:02AM (#44029401)
not miele
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by fragmede on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:48AM (#44029294)
IoT, and in the near future, arms for self loading and unloading. Who knows what advancement in UI will happen? If we knew what they were beforehand, we'd be doing then already.

For example, the microwave. Older microwaves have a cumbersome enter time, hit start procedure. Newer microwaves also have a "quick start" button for 30 seconds which you can just press four times to get it to go for two minutes, or enter the time if you need it to go for a while. Hardly the stuff most people will replace a microwave for, but definitely a feature expected of newer microwaves.

As far as dishwashers, there are also styling changes to consider - the white plastic of the 80's looks dated now and a chrome front looks modern. who knows what 10 more years will bring, stylistically? You may not be stylish, but for some, that's their bread and butter.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by johnisgood on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:55AM (#44029977)
> For example, the microwave. Older microwaves have a cumbersome enter time, hit start procedure. Newer microwaves also have a "quick start" button for 30 seconds which you can just press four times to get it to go for two minutes, or enter the time if you need it to go for a while. Hardly the stuff most people will replace a microwave for, but definitely a feature expected of newer microwaves.

How old are we talking about? My microwave is exactly like that, and it is about 15 years old if not more.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by BlueTemplar on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:17AM (#44030780)
Yeah, I have one like that from 2010-2013.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by tcfhgj on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:09AM (#44030114)
I have a rotating knob on the micro wave, no manual digital input although it's only a few years old. Fwiw it could be a decade or two old

And I am happy with it. Pretty much prefer it to using buttons.

Just rotate it to about 30, done.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by saltcured on Monday May 19, 2025 @12:54PM (#44031830)
We have a pretty modern one that is a hybrid of these things. It has a knob that is a rotary encoder to quickly spin up a digital time, so it's become "flick of the wrist, START" to hit times I use frequently like 25s, 2m, and 2m50s at full power.

It also has the instant 30s button which my wife seems to prefer to the rotating input.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rfrey on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:58AM (#44029997)
>Older microwaves have a cumbersome enter time, hit start procedure. Newer microwaves also have a "quick start" button for 30 seconds which you can just press four times to get it to go for two minutes

QS-QS-QS-QS-Start

2-0-0-Start

"Cumbersome"?

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by fragmede on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:06AM (#44030083)
it's qs-qs-qs-qs, and yes, Americans, home of the Hot Pocket are that lazy.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by foodevl on Monday May 19, 2025 @04:39PM (#44034587)
Lazy, or more efficient? If you type a time and hit start, you're not microwaving until you're done with all the buttons. If you hit "QS" a bunch to reach the duration instead, the microwave starts cooking immediately on the first press. Your nuggets get done a whole second earlier!
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by ackfoobar on Monday May 19, 2025 @02:38PM (#44033212)
Mine is "time cook"-2-0-0-start. Pressing "2" to start is some dumb preset program.

But that's not the point, it's usually not pleasant to find and press the buttons on the microwaves machine. Mashing the corner button a bunch of times is a nicer experience.

If it weren't the start button doing double duty as "+30 seconds", I would put my microwave in a more accessible location - space I rather put other stuff in.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by rsynnott on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:12AM (#44029500)
> IoT

Has no place in a dishwasher.

> and in the near future, arms for self loading and unloading

Pure fantasy for now; if it's ever not pure fantasy, go ahead and replace the dishwasher, I suppose?

> Older microwaves have a cumbersome enter time, hit start procedure. Newer microwaves also have a "quick start" button for 30 seconds which you can just press four times to get it to go for two minutes, or enter the time if you need it to go for a while.

... I'm 40, and every digital-control microwave I have ever used has that 30 second quick start button. So, okay, maybe that was an advance in microwave UX in, like, the 80s, but it was apparently the last advance.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by song on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:53AM (#44030540)
Sidenote, I wish my washing machine had wifi, it'd allow us to see what settings our housekeeper is using and why our clothes age so much quicker than when we were doing the laundry ourselves.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by c22 on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @01:17AM (#44038031)
They're probably using fabric "softener".
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Lio on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:09AM (#44029468)
It's not just how long it lasts.

When we redid our kitchen our fitter had to argue with our whitegoods supplier for us.

The guy in the shop couldn't understand why I wanted a built in Miele fridge-freezer over what ever generic he wanted to off load. His argument was that nobody would be able to see the logo so it didn't matter and we should just take the cheaper item.

My argument was that the Miele was much more energy efficient and would be running 24/7.

Given that enegry costs have risen substantially since then I think I made the correct choice and that the difference in purchase price has more than been offset.

Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by thesuitonym on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:25AM (#44030855)
Of course nobody wants your garbage furniture that only lasts 15 years. And since I plan to live 50-100 years, I'd like furniture that can last as long.
Re:What do wealthy people buy, that ordinary people know not... by Der_Einzige on Monday May 19, 2025 @12:02PM (#44031250)
High end furniture from brands that last 50-100 years (i.e. Hancock and Moore, Century, a lot of other brands made in the Hickory NC area) hold their value. Go to the estate sales near you and watch as the prices for pieces from those companies (also real mid century modern furniture) holds at least 1/2 it's value 10+ years later.

High end furniture is the kind, like goodyear welted boots, where you keep it forever and reupholster it every 10 years.