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Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by ProllyInfamous on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @04:14PM (#43988700)
As a forty-something semi-retired electrician, the following apply to me:

(c) I own a cell phone, but NEVER leave the house with it (effectively a landline, but less expensive). When my city recently began requiring an app for public street parking, I simply stopped paying for parking (it's only a $16 fine, unless you are handicapped == free).

(e) The only thing that causes me to update my phone is when the battery swells up (typically around eight years). Otherwise I don't even update the original OS.

(g) Flat out, I refuse to use your app

(i) Whether by business/marketing or governments, agreed

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by gtirloni on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @06:12PM (#43989726)
You're an outlier. I can safely say this doesn't apply to the majority of the population.
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by rcbdev on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @07:20PM (#43990201)
Since when are lawmakers and public servants concerned with providing utility for only the majority of citizens? That would, in aggregate, alienate many people from various public services.
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by SR2Z on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @07:25PM (#43990227)
Lawmakers and public servants have ALWAYS been concerned with majorities.

I don't know where you get the idea that every single government program ever has to work for everyone - that's clearly not true and many useful programs are supposed to only serve a majority of people. Sewers are a great example of this.

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by rcbdev on Thursday May 15, 2025 @02:29AM (#43992374)
Who does not use the sewage system?
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by SR2Z on Thursday May 15, 2025 @10:46AM (#43995638)
Septic systems are used outside cities when no sewers are available. They're very common in the US.
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by gtirloni on Thursday May 15, 2025 @10:48AM (#43995666)
Try requesting a special connection and extra treatment for your sewage.
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by ysavir on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @07:11PM (#43990152)
And therefor they don't deserve to ride the bus?
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by SR2Z on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @07:34PM (#43990296)
If they want to use an ad-hoc bus that runs exactly where people request it in real time, then YES. They should not expect it to work for them.
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by ProllyInfamous on Thursday May 15, 2025 @12:23AM (#43991816)
I'd [OC] rather ride a predictable train/subway... but the density / bureaucracy of most American jurisdictions keeps this to a few limited megacities (I have lived in the SFBay & NYC, both; won't go back).

Also, can't the bus system have a kiosk/terminal at certain locations? Can't there be a coin/bill acceptor on each block's single parking meter (e.g. Austin, Texas / UT campus meters)?

Recently I became a plaintiff (first time, small claims, no big deal); I was surprised to see that only pro se litigants can file paperwork with the court (i.e. lawyers MUST use the e-file system).

I attended medical school for one year, right before ACA/eRecords became a requirement... and this always seemed so invasive (e.g. sensitive/VIP psych documentation, PP).

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by mbs159 on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:36AM (#44030967)
> I can safely say this doesn't apply to the majority of the population.

That's a pretty bold claim, would love to see the data. The only thing I know that applies to the majority of the population is that they breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide, and even with that claim I am not 100% confident.

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by ProllyInfamous on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @07:05PM (#44046809)
...see also: death & taxes (as many smarties have noted [1] [2]).

[1] Daniel Defoe

[2] Ben Franklin

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by nsonha on Friday May 16, 2025 @12:28PM (#44007315)
you made the choices, deal with the consequences.

I find it amazing that people can be like "screw optimizing public services, saving the environment and make things more accessible for most people, I and some others don't like phones"

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by zem on Friday May 16, 2025 @01:05PM (#44007695)
it's philosophically wrong to say "you need to buy a phone, give some company your personal information, and pay for connectivity on a recurring basis, simply to be able to use a public service"
Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by ProllyInfamous on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @07:15PM (#44046861)
As I only park downtown once per quarter (metered by a phone app), so far I've not been cited. When it does finally happen:

I plan to become plaintiff in my third civil suit against a mid-sized US city (this one: for requiring cell phone / app to park). I know this sounds petty AF, but I have plenty of free time to help correct this philosophical setback [app parking] with precedent. Dare I say to consider this `moral imperative` =D

During a civil action approximately two years ago (in a state Chancery Court), I had to sign an affadavid that "I don't use/have email" ... because Judge didn't believe me (a form `REQUIRED` it)!

I've filed most my court briefs using a typewriter, which is conversation-inducing (to say the least). As a pro se litigant, the courts are still required to accept paper copies =P

Re:Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes by zem on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @08:32PM (#44047263)
that is truly fighting the good fight :) good on you.