Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by thih9 on Monday May 12, 2025 @12:15PM
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> in 10k years (…) the average length of a solar day will be 1⁄30 of an SI second longer than it is today.
Looks like a new test case scenario for libraries that handle time/date.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by Timon3 on Monday May 12, 2025 @12:32PM
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Am I misreading something, or isn't that already in 1,000 years?
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by thih9 on Monday May 12, 2025 @02:31PM
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You are correct, I made a typo in the grandparent comment - it should have been 1k years. Unfortunately I can no longer edit.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by timewizard on Monday May 12, 2025 @03:54PM
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Insertion of a leap second every month.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by AnotherGoodName on Monday May 12, 2025 @09:01PM
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Well at least the datetime library would be a perfectly reasonable place to handle leap seconds. The place that outputs the timestamp to a human readable format wouldn’t at all be that hard pressed to add a second when printing out the local time with timezone considered. It really wouldn’t add that much complexity.
Could you imagine if anyone was stupid enough to think the right place to handle such a thing was the internal counter of seconds rather than the datetime library though? Ha! That’d be ridiculous right! Imagine all the bugs if someone put something that’s only relevant to local timezone time printing there! It’d cause so many unexpected bugs!
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by Gibbon1 on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @03:48AM
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At 10^78 years we could use 512 bit time stamps and be safe from overflow and measure all the way down to Planck time.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by joquarky on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @04:34PM
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Time is so /weird/ that I don't know how computers will ever wrangle it comprehensively.
Just consider the weird but valid scenario in relativity where A can occur before B, B before C, and C before A. I'm not sure how you would wrangle something like that in a data format.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by jfoster on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @06:30AM
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Can that happen in relativity? How?
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by moi2388 on Thursday May 15, 2025 @01:52AM
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I’m guessing for different observers. No idea how for a single observer all those could possibly be true
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by VagabundoP on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:32AM
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Here's my favorite youtube version of this:
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by lattalayta on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:31AM
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In video form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by tarsius on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:34PM
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For dramatic effect, my monitor turned off right after "By this point, distant galaxies and starts are receding so fast that their light has become undetectable."
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by rwoerz on Monday May 12, 2025 @02:39PM
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My favourite sleep aid video.
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by alexey-salmin on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @03:28AM
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There's also this lovely musical video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJNta-okRw
The "no more strength, no way out" part kills me every time I watch it.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by butlike on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @01:12PM
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Seems like unproven mumbo jumbo after about the halfway point
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by slicktux on Monday May 12, 2025 @03:06PM
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Great wiki page!
It even mentions Boltzmann Brains!
“ This infinite future could allow for the occurrence of massively improbable events, such as the formation of Boltzmann brains.”
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by platz on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @01:45AM
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Boltzmann Brains usually mean something is wrong in your cosmology
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by pyb on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @02:25AM
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But taking this the other way around : it's also interesting that some cosmologies are known to be incorrect, because they would enable alternative forms of consciousness.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by ithkuil on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @02:47AM
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Or with our philosophy around anthropic reasoning. Or both.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by paulpauper on Monday May 12, 2025 @04:45PM
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So given these finding, that page will need to be overhauled a lot
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by burnt-resistor on Monday May 12, 2025 @04:45PM
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To survive beyond 1 Gy from now, life will need to move underground where the water is and hopefully much cooler than the eventual surface. Also, such life may/will become necessary to relocate to Mars, hopefully taking resources with them. (I don't say "us" because of likely dramatic evolution.)
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by zmgsabst on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:48PM
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1 Gy ago, life wasn’t multicellular.
I don’t think we have the ability to meaningfully predict such scales.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by thombat on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @12:44AM
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The only reason that the subsurface rock is cooler than magma is being able to conduct heat through to a cooler surface. When that surface becomes exterminatingly hot and remains so for a while the subsurface will be heating up too. Since the sun is estimated to remain a red giant for about one Gy it will become hotter than the surface.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by Timwi on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @06:52AM
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At that scale of time, it's not implausible that we have the technology to relocate Earth itself by then (e.g. increase its orbit).
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by soulofmischief on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @07:39AM
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Completely in line with our propensity for destabilizing harmonic systems in nature. Imagine we do that and all of the other planetary orbits degenerate or become dangerous.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by evtothedev on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:27PM
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I feel like you could build an entire meditation practice around reading this article.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by azemetre on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:34PM
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That or existential dread.
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by joquarky on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @04:39PM
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I mitigate that by choosing to interpret it as a circle rather than a line.
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by NKosmatos on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:56PM
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It pairs well with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe
Re:Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner tha...
by grues-dinner on Monday May 12, 2025 @06:37PM
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If Reid Malenfant or Jim Bolder aren't involved, this isn't the deep time future I'm interested in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future