Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by jonhohle on Monday May 05, 2025 @12:29PM
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BeOS got it right with BeFS. An Email client was just a folder. MP3s could be sorted and filtered in the file system. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12309686
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Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by foobiekr on Monday May 05, 2025 @03:05PM
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BeFS wasn't a database. It had indexed queries on EAs and they had the habit of asking application files to add their indexable content to the EAs. Internally it was just a mostly-not-transactional collection of btrees.
There was no query language for updating files, or even inspecting anything about a file that was not published in the EAs (or implicitly do as with adapters), there were no multi-file transactions, no joins, nothing. Just rich metadata support in the FS.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by Ericson2314 on Monday May 05, 2025 @05:17PM
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Yeah I am talking more deep architecture, and BeOS is more notable here mostly on just the user-interface level.
However, I think it is reasonable to think that with way more time and money, these things would meet up. Think about it as digging a tunnel from both sides of the mountain.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by foobiekr on Monday May 05, 2025 @07:01PM
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Microsoft poured at least $100M into this hole with nothing to show for it.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by Ericson2314 on Monday May 05, 2025 @08:58PM
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That doesn't disprove anything for me. It just says POSIX DOS lowest common denominator network effects are a hell of a drug.
Whenever we're talking about interfaces, coordination success or failure is the name of the game.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by foobiekr on Monday May 05, 2025 @10:14PM
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What problem do you think a DB-as-filesystem solves? The only obvious one that makes any sense at all is cross-file transactions.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by Ericson2314 on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @10:34AM
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The filesystem is a bad database
Directories are a shitty underpowered way to organize data?
No good transactions
Conflation of different needs such as atomic replace vs log-structured
I would like to use a better database instead.
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by foobiekr on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @11:08AM
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Would you pay 50x performance decrease?
Re:Show HN: VectorVFS, your filesystem as a vector database
by Ericson2314 on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @12:00PM
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No, and I would also not need to.