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Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by throw10920 on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:09PM (#43890400)
Riot Games is a morally bankrupt and extremely profit-driven company. If they're not abusing Vanguard to provide MSS actors access to user's machines (free VPN to cover your tracks!), then they're mining data from your computer - perhaps for market research or to sell to adtech.

As a player of some of their games - they not only don't care about their players, but have a deeply abusive relationship with us.

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by impulser_ on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:31PM (#43890520)
Crazy you think Riot Games is extremely profit driven. I have played League of Legends for 13 years and not once have they required or requested a single penny from me. I have given them 0$.

An extremely profit driven company wouldn't allow that.

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by cheschire on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:45PM (#43890604)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_Delivers_People

Perhaps you may benefit from reading this.

But basically, if the product is free, then you are the product.

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by arealaccount on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:55PM (#43890656)
Bummer there’s no link to the video
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by papa_bear on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:42PM (#43891238)
This isn’t a given since there’s still a way to give them money directly for cosmetics (which makes them a ton of money). Many freemium business models give away a lot product for free with the goal of convincing a minority of users to pay and subsidize the rest.
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by devilsdata on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:40PM (#43890564)
This is like saying Google isn’t extremely profit-driven because we don’t pay them.
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by throw10920 on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:44PM (#43891249)
This is wrong in almost every possible way.

It's invalid to say "a profit-driven company wouldn't do x" for almost any value of x.

It's also invalid to suggest that a company that doesn't require money isn't profit-driven. There are thousands of free-to-play games run by greedy companies that push monetization on users (even if they don't require it). There are tens of thousands of companies that use ads to monetize their games.

There's also ample evidence of Riot's greed over the past few years - $500 skins, progressive removal of more and more free cosmetics from the game despite record revenue, encouraging and enabling smurf accounts (which absolutely ruin the experience for other players) because they buy more skins, and many, many more instances.

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by squigz on Sunday May 04, 2025 @07:11PM (#43890417)
You seem to feel pretty strongly about Riot. Are you going to stop playing their games?
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by throw10920 on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:06PM (#43891040)
Yes! I've already gotten about 2/3 of my friends to stop playing their games. I'm working on the last third - after I get a couple key people off I can quit for good.
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by squigz on Monday May 05, 2025 @08:09AM (#43894197)
That's good to hear. A lot of people are unwilling to give up even the smallest things despite talking very strongly against some companies.
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by bigyabai on Sunday May 04, 2025 @10:25PM (#43891442)
Yes. I played League on Linux before they imposed anticheat, and stopped immediately afterwards.

Quitting Riot games was one of the easiest things I've ever done, especially now that Deadlock lets you make lobbies.

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by xeonmc on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:32PM (#43891188)
Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by xeonmc on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:53PM (#43891292)
And an extended discussion on the manipulative gaslighting by Riot on their Crowdstrike-esq rollout incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4YvcQOSiRM&list=PLzBq1zjrpq...

Re:How Riot Games is fighting the war against video game hac... by throw10920 on Sunday May 04, 2025 @10:26PM (#43891447)
Don't forget:

- penalizing a pro player for picking a particular champ and rune combo due to it being bugged (which is their fault) even though the player didn't abuse the bug

- the CEO of the company doxxing the developer of a competing game

- the insane AI-powered "zero tolerance chat filter" that regularly catches comments that, upon human review, are clearly inoffensive

- the "lane swap detection" anti-feature

- autofill

- client and server crashes being blamed on the players

...and many, many, many more examples.