If you can't sit in the backseat and watch a movie, it's not self driving.

All I’m saying is that starting FSD from park in my driveway and having it drive to my destination with my hands on my legs and then having it park itself when it gets there seems reasonable to call “full self driving” to me. I pay for the subscription and I would continue paying if it never got any better. I do live in a rural state, so maybe that’s why it works so well.

Having used cars that had that "supervised" driving feature.... Gosh, I hope you were paying 100% attention the whole time of that driving experience you described. Even the smart cruise control features I've used allowed my mind to drift, and I was glad for the beeping from the steering wheel telling me to pay attention. I don't use those features anymore.

If it's full self driving, then I assume that Tesla is paying for your insurance and taking all responsibility for any crashes it causes in your car?

Let's see it do that in the snow, heavy rain, anything that doesn't replicate ideal conditions in SoCal. You're riding on the sweet spot of a Gaussian and at some point you're going to experience an outlier when the machine makes a wrong interpretation of its inputs.

It sounds like you're recklessly interpreting the parameters by which your "self driving" car was made available to you

Did it also drive itself back to your home empty?

Adaptive cruise control could do that too.

How impressive it is depends on where you live.

> Adaptive cruise control could do that too.

No, it could not.

Do you even drive? Or have you tried using any of the features discussed above. I think I’m going insane seeing people comparing cruise control (lol) to FSD. One is a line follower, the other is a teenage driver with a fresh license. They’re not the same.

Oh please, just because it can do (bad, sometimes horribly dangerous) turns doesn't mean that 99.9% of the time it's not just a glorified cruise control with lane centering.

I owned a Model 3 with FSD. I own a Mach-E with BlueCruise. They're equivalent for the majority of drives I've done.