Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by pseudalopex on Saturday April 12, 2025 @01:56PM
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Pausing tariffs was an official act. The Supreme Court ruled courts could not consider presidents' motives for official acts.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Saturday April 12, 2025 @02:16PM
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But what about leaking information about it?
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by pseudalopex on Saturday April 12, 2025 @03:10PM
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Leaking is vague. What part of what law?
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Saturday April 12, 2025 @03:16PM
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It's not vague. I'm not a lawyer but usually cases of trading with insider information are taken very seriously. It's theft, basically. And the scale here is enormous.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by pseudalopex on Saturday April 12, 2025 @03:26PM
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Leaking, insider trading, and theft are different. And laws contain specific definitions.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Saturday April 12, 2025 @05:48PM
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There is evidence of him tweeting insider information.
Again I'm not a lawyer, and I don't care what law is applicable here. But surely this warrants further investigation.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by freeone3000 on Saturday April 12, 2025 @07:58PM
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It’s not “insider” trading if you post about it publicly on Truth Social, the same way it’s not “insider” trading if you took out an ad in the New York Times.
The government is allowed to announce policy before doing it! Even if it affects stock prices!
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Saturday April 12, 2025 @08:00PM
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Yeah, I'm not on that social media, nor do I read NYT. The same holds for millions of others.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by freeone3000 on Saturday April 12, 2025 @08:07PM
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Too bad! Insider trading, as a crime, requires that the information be nonpublic material information. You can join Truth Social and follow Donald Trump, so that makes the information public.
It actually is that broad. Futures traders often rely on industry-specific periodicals, which are “public”. Same for anything in the (high monthly cost!) Bloomberg terminal. So posting on a specific social media platform, where subscribing is free? That’s 100% public.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:53AM
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Except he didn't announce anything. He said "a good time to buy" which may be code language that his friends understand.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by freeone3000 on Sunday April 13, 2025 @10:00AM
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… are you hearing yourself? “It’s a good time to buy!” has the plain english meaning “you should buy stock”. Everyone, you included, understood he was talking about US company stocks. Which, if you did, you would have profited. This theoretical code would be “when i say it’s a good time to buy stock, we should all buy stock!”. That is, well, not a code.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Sunday April 13, 2025 @10:11AM
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He should have announced the policy, and said something like "we will pause the tariffs". But instead, he said something vague, which can be interpreted as a hint, and which will open the road for investigations.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by freeone3000 on Sunday April 13, 2025 @10:22AM
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“Now is a good time to buy” isn’t vague.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by amelius on Sunday April 13, 2025 @12:41PM
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The point is that this text is not the official policy. It is a hint to investors.
Re:Apple, Nvidia, Dell, and Others Get a Tariffs Exemption U...
by freeone3000 on Sunday April 13, 2025 @02:57PM
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A public hint to investors.
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/well-timed-options-...
(Besides, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's Russian oligarch friends were among these traders.)