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Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by fragmede on Friday April 11, 2025 @02:40PM (#43657001)
in the beginning general purpose computers weren't capable of running graphics like the consoles could. That took dedicated hardware that only the early Atari/NES/Genesis had. That's not to say that the Apple or IBM clones didn't have games, they did, but it just wasn't the same. The differentiation was their hardware, enabling games that couldn't be run on early PCs. Otherwise why buy a console?

So the thinking was a unique architecture is what a console's raison d’être was. Of course now we know better, as the latest generation of consoles shows, butthat's where the thinking for the PS3's cell architecture came from.

Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by gmueckl on Friday April 11, 2025 @02:51PM (#43657135)
This leaves out an important step. When 3D graphics acceleration entered the broader consumer/desktop computing market, it was also a successor to the kind of 2D graphics acceleration that consoles had and previous generations of desktop computers generally didn't. So I believe that it's fair to say that specialized console hardware was replaced by general purpose computing hardware because the general purpose hardware had morphed to include a superset of console hardware capabilities.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Friday April 11, 2025 @03:08PM (#43657336)
GPUs are just mitochondria that were absorbed into general purpose computers after evolving from early game consoles
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by gmueckl on Friday April 11, 2025 @04:29PM (#43658180)
GPUs evolved from graphics workstations (Pixar Image Computer, various SGI products...) rather than game consoles. Especially SGI pioneered a lot of the HW accelerated rendering pipeline that trickled into consumer graphics chips.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by dehrmann on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:36PM (#43658892)
Have to mention that the N64 was loosely based on SGI tech.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by gregw2 on Saturday April 12, 2025 @07:34AM (#43663518)
Not just loosely, SGI itself made the core graphics chip for N64.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by dehrmann on Friday April 11, 2025 @03:14PM (#43657398)
Agreeing with all my siblings' comments, computers took cues from a lot of places and evolved to be general-purpose. Something similar happened on the GPU side, and at some point, the best parts of bespoke graphics hardware got generalized–plus 3D upended the whole space. By the PS3 era, there were multiple GPU vendors and multiple generations of APIs, so everything had settled down and standardized. The era of gaining a competitive advantage through clever hardware was over, and Sony, a hardware company, was still fighting the last war.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by fragmede on Friday April 11, 2025 @04:00PM (#43657901)
> Sony, a hardware company, was still fighting the last war.

exactly!

Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by MBCook on Friday April 11, 2025 @04:48PM (#43658368)
That has been and I’d say still is a huge problem for them. They are not a software company at all and it hurts many thing.

PlayStation is the one exception. But they learned the wrong lesson from the PS2 (exotic hardware is great! No one minds!) and had to get a beating during the PS3 era for the division to get back on track.

Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by treyd on Friday April 11, 2025 @02:50PM (#43657121)
This is the thing that people don't realize about middle-era consoles. It was the shift where commodity PC hardware was competing well with console hardware.

Today in 2025 the only possible advantage is maybe in a specific price category where the volume discount is enough to justify it. In general, consoles just don't make technological sense.

Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by MBCook on Friday April 11, 2025 @04:49PM (#43658381)
Price, UX, and fixed hardware that can be heavily optimized for.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by VyseofArcadia on Friday April 11, 2025 @02:51PM (#43657140)
Well, there was the Amiga, but in all fairness it was first conceived as a game console and then worked into a computer.
Re:The PS3 Licked the Many Cookie by rasz on Saturday April 12, 2025 @04:48PM (#43667832)
>That took dedicated hardware that only the early Atari

2600 was downright pathetic compared to TRS-80 or Apple 2

>/NES

comparable to C-64

>/Genesis

comparable to Amiga 500