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Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by erkt on Friday March 28, 2025 @11:19PM (#43512433)
/s? Otherwise this is hysterical.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by boredatoms on Friday March 28, 2025 @11:57PM (#43512599)
Im pretty sure Canada isn’t treating it like a joke
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by renewiltord on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:05AM (#43512630)
A curse of the youth is that they desire living in interesting times. They’ll work themselves up into a lather over it.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by beepbooptheory on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:20AM (#43512693)
A curse of the old is that they are doomed to see the world only as they have always known it, to always be "right," leaving them at best to die bitter; at worst, confused.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by the_gastropod on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:03AM (#43512621)
Yes. For 10 years now, we’ve been hearing how hysterical the predictions about Trump’s actions are. And then he does them. And goal posts are moved, frogs are boiled, whatever analogy you prefer. Dude’s, right now, disappearing people against court orders to forced labor camps in other countries with no due process. He’s talking about taking over Canada and Greenland. What makes you think this is unrealistic? Why do you believe what you believe?
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by kelnos on Saturday March 29, 2025 @01:09AM (#43512922)
At best -- at best -- the rhetoric about Canada and Greenland is just yet another distraction from all the other domestic crap he and Musk are pulling. At slightly less than best, he wants to scare other countries into making concessions favorable to the US (or at even less than best, favorable to Trump and his cronies).

But yes, I would not be terribly surprised if Trump were to use boots on the ground -- or at least the threat of such -- to expand the US's territory in some way.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:43AM (#43514386)
Underestimating your enemy, or buying into all these media talking points about his will-they-won't-they energy and "epic trolling", will have disastrous effects. The most culpable person down the list after the apathetic are those who refuse to take tragedy and security threats seriously.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @01:36AM (#43513047)
> For 10 years now, we’ve been hearing how hysterical the predictions about Trump’s actions are. And then he does them.

We've been hearing hysterical things about every Republican candidate for at least 30 years. Nothing ever happens.

> Dude’s, right now, disappearing people against court orders to forced labor camps in other countries with no due process.

Extraordinary rendition flights have operated (illegally and unconstitutionally) under every president for the last 20+ years at least. Don't get me wrong, it's terrible and something the country should be ashamed of, but it's nothing special about Trump. Obama did it, Biden did it, whoever comes after Trump will doubtless do it too.

> He’s talking about taking over Canada and Greenland. What makes you think this is unrealistic? Why do you believe what you believe?

The long history of nothingburgers and hysteria, not least in the entirety of Trump's first term.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by throwaway290 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @02:13AM (#43513208)
> > For 10 years now, we’ve been hearing how hysterical the predictions about Trump’s actions are. And then he does them.

> We've been hearing hysterical things about every Republican candidate for at least 30 years. Nothing ever happens.

I think you replied to something you made up to avoid replying to the actual thing. It was that in case of Trump apparently there is a history of ppl saying "surely it is joke and president would never do that" but then the president does exactly that. Not about hysterical things talked about US presidents.

After many cases where he said "I'll do that" then people like you said "no that's insane he's not going to do that don't worry" and then he does it, a sane person should assume that maybe he talks without thinking but then he sticks to what he blurted. And those things include attacking allies bordering with USA

So it can be up to USA military to uphold constitution or do what president says.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @02:24AM (#43513257)
That's not how I read it, but the crazy predictions I can remember were also nothingburgers. The "muslim ban" sank without trace after like a week. The stuff about how he was going to sabotage the coronavirus vaccine couldn't have been more wrong. He was going to lock up Hillary Clinton? Haha, no, of course he wasn't. He was going to do some sort of coup thing on Jan 6th? Again, no, big hysteria that turned out to be a nothingburger. If someone wants to claim that he actually did something crazy, they should give an example.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by throwaway290 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @02:34AM (#43513297)
It looks like Trump's second presidency is very different from the first and a bunch of things actually happened like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43511213, renaming of international water bodies, rugpull meme cryptocoins, DOGE and stuff it does, appointing convicted criminals to the gov, tax cuts on the rich, tariffs on allies (UK/Taiwan), pardoning darknet druglord, disappeared a Muslim student and terminated her visa apparently for coauthoring a pro-Palestinian op-ed in university newspaper (https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachuse...) etc.

Things are happening very quickly

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @03:25AM (#43513533)
> It looks like Trump's second presidency is very different from the first

That's a pretty big backpedal from "For 10 years now, we’ve been hearing how hysterical the predictions about Trump’s actions are. And then he does them."

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by throwaway290 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @05:36AM (#43514095)
I didn't give those examples but stuff was happening during first presidency too (the wall, abortion, Jan 6). And now it keeps happening except more often & worse. Both can be true.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:45AM (#43514403)
Did you forget we recently spent over 30 years of military operations in Iraq? Or our current military support of an ongoing genocidal religious massacre? What exactly is your threshold for fucked up shit?
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @10:08AM (#43515671)
> Did you forget we recently spent over 30 years of military operations in Iraq?

Under multiple administrations from both sides of the aisle, with a significant drawdown under Trump.

> Or our current military support of an ongoing genocidal religious massacre?

Which started under Biden (this round) and has full bipartisan support.

> What exactly is your threshold for fucked up shit?

Something other than "It's fucked up when Trump does the things that were business as usual for several previous presidents".

Has the US government been out of control for decades? Sure. Is Trump doing something uniquely bad? I've yet to see it.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Saturday March 29, 2025 @02:06PM (#43517346)
All of this is a strawman. I said nothing about the other side of the aisle, and they get no excuses either. But whataboutism is not a valid argument nor an excuse for this current administration's behavior.

> significant drawdown under Trump

Dude is literally going full empire mode right now with our neighboring allies. And he also got very close to starting a war with Iran on his way out of his last term. And now he is continuing to support the same genocide as his predecessors, and siding with Russia over the Ukraine conflict. He is an absolute clown and an illegitimate tyrant.

> Has the US government been out of control for decades? Sure. Is Trump doing something uniquely bad? I've yet to see it.

Status quo has never been a legitimate excuse for tyranny.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:02PM (#43519129)
> All of this is a strawman. I said nothing about the other side of the aisle, and they get no excuses either. But whataboutism is not a valid argument nor an excuse for this current administration's behavior.

If your position is that Trump is doing something crazy then you absolutely need to show how what he's doing is different from baseline. And if you're suggesting people should have voted against him, which tends to be implicit in conversations about the president, then the alternative they would be voting for is absolutely relevant.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:15PM (#43519206)
I don't need to bother when the man himself will be the first to proclaim to you that he's done more in his first 100 days of this term than any prior president. He can't shut up about it.

> And if you're suggesting people should have voted against him, which tends to be implicit in conversations about the president

I'm not suggesting anything other than what I explicitly stated, and this kind of predisposition, bias, whatever you'd like to call it, is the entire issue of this conversation with you. At each turn, you pile on another straw man, telling me how I must be thinking instead of earnestly finding out exactly what I have to say. There is no value in such an exchange.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @08:46PM (#43520104)
> At each turn, you pile on another straw man, telling me how I must be thinking instead of earnestly finding out exactly what I have to say.

You stepped into my conversation with someone else. The statement I called out was:

"For 10 years now, we’ve been hearing how hysterical the predictions about Trump’s actions are. And then he does them. And goal posts are moved, frogs are boiled, whatever analogy you prefer."

If that's not a statement you want to defend then there is indeed no value in your participation.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Sunday March 30, 2025 @04:21AM (#43522392)
> You stepped into my conversation with someone else

This is hacker news, that's the point of threaded conversation. I presented fine counterpoints to your arguments, and you failed to effectively engage them, instead moving to straw man arguments. There is a reason your post was flagged to death. This is the end of our conversation.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @08:51AM (#43546181)
> I presented fine counterpoints to your arguments, and you failed to effectively engage them, instead moving to straw man arguments.

That's some fine projection there. You made fine counterpoints to a strawman position that I never took.

> There is a reason your post was flagged to death.

Yes, TDS.

> This is the end of our conversation.

I'll take that as an admission of defeat.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by soulofmischief on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @02:05PM (#43549763)
> You made fine counterpoints to a strawman position that I never took.

I must be blind, because I can still see your comments.

Discussions are not about winning or losing, that is a toxic mentality to have. You need to review the HN guidelines. Good bye.

Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by lmm on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @10:00PM (#43553048)
Lol. Every time.
Re:xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B by UltraSane on Friday March 28, 2025 @11:28PM (#43512475)
With Trump you can never be sure. His is very very stupid.