It's not just about avoiding the US out of anger; it's more about preventing US companies from having too much control over their citizens and daily lives. By focusing on open-source solutions, whether American or not, it should serves their purpose. They can move all packages to a EU server, and manage it more directly this way

Thats what I belive but im no expert especially on the law, but I dont see an issue with US opensource unless the EU straight up penalizing any technology thats developed in the US, which Id doubt they would do.

> It's not just about avoiding the US out of anger

Definitely not the feeling I’m getting from progressive tech circles these weeks.

Definitely the feeling I'm getting from progressive tech circles in Europe these days.

Yea. If they want to support EU based companies and tech, why wouldn't they use SuSE? Or base it on Debian if they don't want to be 'beholden' to any company.

> Or base it on Debian if they don't want to be 'beholden' to any company.

Debian typically doesn't support new hardware and software while Fedora does. Personally, I found the balance by using both inside Qubes OS.

Debian Stable and Fedora answer to different use cases. I wouldn't use Fedora on any production server.

They are aware of that, https://gitlab.com/eu-os/eu-os.gitlab.io/-/issues/2#note_240.... What would you suggest?

SuSE is the obvious choice, and I'm surprised that some European Linux developers aren't aware of this. They don't mention it at all on the linked "Goals" page.

If I can dream: a custom built distro using pkgsrc+pkgin as package manager. Improving pkgsrc means that other distros and operating systems can take advantage of it too, making for a more diverse ecosystem.

A more serious choice would be Suse.

>>What would you suggest?

EVERY other Community distro:

Debian

Gentoo

Guix

Nix

FreeBSD

etc....

Because people don't know OpenSUSE and Mageia exist.

Yes, it's incredibly stupid, there is already EuroLinux (RHEL) and now EU OS (Fedora), Fedora and RHEL are not community distros. Is this some kind of testbed for ChatControl2.0?

From the Site:

Sovereign

OS built to the requirements for the EU public sector

Sleek

OS that is fast and eco-friendly on new and old hardware

Yes...no. Fedora is not sovereign, nor is KDE "sleek". Must be a troll distribution, I trust HannaMontana Linux 10x more.

How exactly is Fedora, a FOSS under the GPL license, not sovereign?

Fedora does what RedHat/IBM want's. For example not shipping patented Codecs because RedHat could be sued.

Same with openSUSE (the "community"-distro from SLES).

>Red Hat: why I'm going all in on community-driven Linux distros:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUXYbt1eLTA

It's Kinoite, not stock Fedora, which is ideal for a mass deployment like this. It also means the actual OS doesn't really matter as it's ultimately just a tool to run Flatpak and OCI containers.

software supply chain issues. they may try to fork their own everything in time, if it gets that bad...

the same reason the US had to find out how chinese rare earth magnets made it in to the F35, for example.

It doesn't matter where software was produced or where it's core contributors reside. As long as it is fully open sourced and distributed under the GPL license (as Fedora) it is by nature an independent technology that empowers the user to claim their own sovereignty.

Correct.

But being open source and distributed under the GPL is not enough.

RedHat or SuSE have a more indeterminate future due to their shareholders control, frequent changes of owners, distro licensing or source code availability.

Debian, the distro, is almost boring but has the largest platform scope and one of the largest package base. Debian, the organisation, with its community, its policies, its social contract, its independence, has proven its resilience over and over again.

In addition to Debian's LTS and ELTS support, the Civil Infrastructure Platform (https://www.cip-project.org) provides Super-Long-Term Stable (SLTS) kernels for ten years. Want paid support ? Look at companies like Freexian. Want reproducible builds? (https://reproducible-builds.org) Look at https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds (And yes, I'm very aware of NixOS/Guix).

Thus, why start a new Linux distribution if we want sovereignty?

Let's support and build on the Debian project and community, the Civil Infrastructure Platform, the Linux Foundation, the reproducible builds projects. Let's support Proxmox, a EU-born VMware alternative based on Debian ! :-)

Developer resources are scarce, maintainers burnout is real. Let's not waste energy on futile projects. Let's build our sovereignty on solid, existing foundations.

Oh, and let's move to RISC-V. ;-)

Right, why not SUSE Linux which is European?