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Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Arainach on Saturday March 15, 2025 @06:16PM (#43375495)
You can pay for YouTube Premium and get no ads.
Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by freehorse on Saturday March 15, 2025 @06:19PM (#43375512)
I am not talking about ads (specifically), but about all the control that these tools offer.
Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by moron4hire on Saturday March 15, 2025 @06:25PM (#43375556)
That's not true, there are still lots of ads that you'll have to sit through. They're just not out there by Google, they're out their by the video creator.

Which, I get it, YouTube isn't paying them enough and they gotta eat. So, it kind of feels like YouTube letting them post their own ads is an intentional choice on YouTube's part to not give me the service I'm paying for.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Arainach on Sunday March 16, 2025 @01:24AM (#43377074)
This is a weird take. What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by lurk2 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @07:23AM (#43378171)
> What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

You can already do this with Sponsorblock.

> If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

Yes.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by latexr on Sunday March 16, 2025 @10:01AM (#43379149)
> What is an "ad"

Considering YouTubers have to disclose paid promotions, this isn’t nearly as grey as your question suggests.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/154235

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by samrus on Sunday March 16, 2025 @11:09AM (#43379652)
> What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

This is solved. Crowdsourcing. Look up sponsorblock

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Dylan16807 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @07:50PM (#43383748)
> What is an "ad"

While the line is fuzzy, there's definitely a line. For example, when a video cuts away from the content to talk about a sponsor that's a clear ad.

> how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

Removing would be somewhat difficult. Banning would not be complicated. Companies word those kinds of agreements all the time.

> If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

I'd say it depends, but the answer doesn't really matter. That's a straightforward category that can be allowed or not allowed directly, no need to worry about semantics.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Arainach on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:10AM (#43385130)
HN is such a weird place. "Free speech" libertarianism when it comes to companies restricting hate speech on their platforms while simultaneously advocating for companies to ban sponsored content.
Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Dylan16807 on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:38AM (#43385256)
I have taken neither of those positions. And I would not take the first position.

Even so, I can see how someone could have those opinions if they strongly distrust attempts at restricting hate speech. The desire for a platform that lets you say whatever you want, but not in exchange for money, is something that makes sense.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by jjulius on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:22AM (#43389518)
Sounds like you're hearing one user express one opinion, another user express a different opinion, and are trying to distill them into a singular "HN" opinion.

I don't think it works that way.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by dinkblam on Saturday March 15, 2025 @09:32PM (#43376356)
even if they are no ads, they still show you 99% only shit with no way to disable it. no i don't want "Shorts". no i don't want the "Gaming" or "Movie" tabs. no i don't ever want to see a video containing words like "reaction". why no customization?