News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Arainach on Sunday March 16, 2025 @01:24AM (#43377074)
This is a weird take. What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by lurk2 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @07:23AM (#43378171)
> What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

You can already do this with Sponsorblock.

> If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

Yes.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by latexr on Sunday March 16, 2025 @10:01AM (#43379149)
> What is an "ad"

Considering YouTubers have to disclose paid promotions, this isn’t nearly as grey as your question suggests.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/154235

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by samrus on Sunday March 16, 2025 @11:09AM (#43379652)
> What is an "ad", and how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

This is solved. Crowdsourcing. Look up sponsorblock

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Dylan16807 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @07:50PM (#43383748)
> What is an "ad"

While the line is fuzzy, there's definitely a line. For example, when a video cuts away from the content to talk about a sponsor that's a clear ad.

> how would you expect any company to remove in-video "ads" without rampant accusations of censorship?

Removing would be somewhat difficult. Banning would not be complicated. Companies word those kinds of agreements all the time.

> If a channel posts a review of a piece of hardware that was sent to them for free by the manufacturer is the entire video an ad?

I'd say it depends, but the answer doesn't really matter. That's a straightforward category that can be allowed or not allowed directly, no need to worry about semantics.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Arainach on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:10AM (#43385130)
HN is such a weird place. "Free speech" libertarianism when it comes to companies restricting hate speech on their platforms while simultaneously advocating for companies to ban sponsored content.
Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by Dylan16807 on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:38AM (#43385256)
I have taken neither of those positions. And I would not take the first position.

Even so, I can see how someone could have those opinions if they strongly distrust attempts at restricting hate speech. The desire for a platform that lets you say whatever you want, but not in exchange for money, is something that makes sense.

Re:Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp by jjulius on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:22AM (#43389518)
Sounds like you're hearing one user express one opinion, another user express a different opinion, and are trying to distill them into a singular "HN" opinion.

I don't think it works that way.