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Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by stuff4ben on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:17PM (#43283276)
That 128Kbps on ISDN was the like the gold standard back then! I knew some sysadmins who had that installed to their homes so they could be available at any time. All paid for by the company they worked for.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by phil21 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:07PM (#43284576)
The most bang for buck "employee benefit" I ever offered to my guys back in the earl 00's was a T1 line to their home for free.

We could do this since local loops to most folks were about $150-200/mo, and we already had a channelized DS3 terminated at our rack at a local datacenter for our phone banks. If you bought your own DS1 retail you'd be paying upwards of $1k/mo back then to a provider.

It was by far the best "stickiness for dollar" investment into employee benefits I've ever found back then or since.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by icedchai on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:16PM (#43286009)
I worked at an ISP that gave dedicated ISDN and 56k frame relay lines as a benefit in the late 90's. T1 would've been amazing!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by linsomniac on Friday March 07, 2025 @08:37AM (#43290033)
I worked for an ISP back in around '98, and they offered to let me terminate a T1 there if I covered the line. I got a contract from the phone company for $205/mo for the T1 and got it all set up, but they were billing me $250/mo for the line. A couple months in DSL dropped, and I got out of the T1 contract because they said they couldn't honor the contract they wrote because $250/mo was the regulated minimum price, and I got 768K DSL for $70/mo. At the time everyone was speculating that DSL wouldn't work (crosstalk across pairs as multiple people in a bundle use DSL will cause it to fail), but they were quickly proven wrong.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by wil421 on Friday March 07, 2025 @12:03PM (#43291880)
Back in the day people on forums would list T1 line in their signature. My ISDN line was not worthy!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Friday March 07, 2025 @04:07PM (#43294671)
I had 1.5 Mbps DSL in 1999, and I think nearly all of my co-workers either had that or a cable modem with similar speed. I think T1s were like 5x the price for the same download speed.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by genewitch on Saturday March 08, 2025 @08:52AM (#43300245)
What market did you have 1.5mbit dsl in, in 1999? GTE in LA county offered 768k/768k symmetric. In 1999. I can't remember when that was increased, but it was after GTE got bought out.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Saturday March 08, 2025 @06:18PM (#43304508)
Calgary. I remember it being asymmetric, probably 256 or 512 up.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by gnabgib on Saturday March 08, 2025 @09:55PM (#43305744)
Cadvision? 3mbps cable (sadly Rogers) wasn't impossible at the time.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Saturday March 08, 2025 @10:36PM (#43305949)
Nucleus!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by gnabgib on Saturday March 08, 2025 @10:51PM (#43306025)
You know they're still around... somehow? :| The website makes their age clear: https://www.mynucleus.ca/
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by shagie on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:55PM (#43284448)
There was also that period of time when Ricochet was available in some places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricochet_(Internet_service)

Wireless 56k baud. So you could take your luggable laptop circa 1994 with you and dial in to work... given you lived in SF.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by royskee on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:27PM (#43284767)
Oh man I forgot about Ricochet. I remember they had service in NYC too, and it turns out also in a few other big markets. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/16/technology/ricochet-netwo...
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by js2 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:47PM (#43283689)
I was one of those SAs, circa 1998-2000. We also had an on-call kit with a Nokia Communicator so we weren't completely stuck at home while on-call.

Fast-forward to 2025, and I now have dual 1Gbps symmetric fiber connections (AT&T, GFiber) into my home from opposite sides of the house. (It's totally gratuitous and I'll probably cancel GFiber in a few months, but I wanted to have it wired up so I could more quickly start service in the future.)

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by hylaride on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:30PM (#43284205)
Ha! My mom worked as a build engineer at BNR (later Nortel) in the 1990s and we got a free 2nd phone line for her to dial into work (99% used by me and my brother for internet). She could have gotten ISDN had it been available in our small town, but alas...
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by fatnoah on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:11PM (#43283991)
> All paid for by the company they worked for.

One of my internships in college was at Sun Microsystems in the org that provided this connectivity to employees. My job was to automate pushing updates to connection software and modem firmware down to clients, but I ended up doing a lot of technical support as well.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by wkat4242 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:47PM (#43283688)
Yes but with channel bundling you also had to pay twice. One channel was only 64k.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by calamity_elf on Friday March 07, 2025 @05:40AM (#43289061)
I used to use 128Kbps bonded ISDN at home through BT Home Highway and an ISP called Red Hot Ant who had fixed price unmetered internet access.

And I accessed the heck out of that connection (until the ISP went bust, wonder why?), and was very much a Q3A LPB during that time.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by joquarky on Friday March 07, 2025 @05:12PM (#43295352)
I had one for work as well in the late 90s.

The other (often overlooked) benefit that ISDN provided was 24/7 connectivity in an age of dialup.

Oh and you could spoof your outgoing phone number for caller ID ]:D