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Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by phil21 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:07PM (#43284576)
The most bang for buck "employee benefit" I ever offered to my guys back in the earl 00's was a T1 line to their home for free.

We could do this since local loops to most folks were about $150-200/mo, and we already had a channelized DS3 terminated at our rack at a local datacenter for our phone banks. If you bought your own DS1 retail you'd be paying upwards of $1k/mo back then to a provider.

It was by far the best "stickiness for dollar" investment into employee benefits I've ever found back then or since.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by icedchai on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:16PM (#43286009)
I worked at an ISP that gave dedicated ISDN and 56k frame relay lines as a benefit in the late 90's. T1 would've been amazing!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by linsomniac on Friday March 07, 2025 @08:37AM (#43290033)
I worked for an ISP back in around '98, and they offered to let me terminate a T1 there if I covered the line. I got a contract from the phone company for $205/mo for the T1 and got it all set up, but they were billing me $250/mo for the line. A couple months in DSL dropped, and I got out of the T1 contract because they said they couldn't honor the contract they wrote because $250/mo was the regulated minimum price, and I got 768K DSL for $70/mo. At the time everyone was speculating that DSL wouldn't work (crosstalk across pairs as multiple people in a bundle use DSL will cause it to fail), but they were quickly proven wrong.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by wil421 on Friday March 07, 2025 @12:03PM (#43291880)
Back in the day people on forums would list T1 line in their signature. My ISDN line was not worthy!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Friday March 07, 2025 @04:07PM (#43294671)
I had 1.5 Mbps DSL in 1999, and I think nearly all of my co-workers either had that or a cable modem with similar speed. I think T1s were like 5x the price for the same download speed.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by genewitch on Saturday March 08, 2025 @08:52AM (#43300245)
What market did you have 1.5mbit dsl in, in 1999? GTE in LA county offered 768k/768k symmetric. In 1999. I can't remember when that was increased, but it was after GTE got bought out.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Saturday March 08, 2025 @06:18PM (#43304508)
Calgary. I remember it being asymmetric, probably 256 or 512 up.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by gnabgib on Saturday March 08, 2025 @09:55PM (#43305744)
Cadvision? 3mbps cable (sadly Rogers) wasn't impossible at the time.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by badc0ffee on Saturday March 08, 2025 @10:36PM (#43305949)
Nucleus!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by gnabgib on Saturday March 08, 2025 @10:51PM (#43306025)
You know they're still around... somehow? :| The website makes their age clear: https://www.mynucleus.ca/