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Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by gambiting on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @06:00PM (#43273945)
You don't have the right to say no or even stay silent. If you refuse to give up your passwords they will charge you with the whatever the legislation around it is, it's 2 years behind bars for refusing.
Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by UberFly on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:00AM (#43276875)
God this is scary. What if this "authority" figure is abusing their position? Do you have any recourse?
Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by johnisgood on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:28AM (#43277053)
Probably not, just a waste of money and time, but hopefully someone can provide a reasonable recourse.

What if you say you forgot? I actually had times (after not having used my phone for a month or two) that I (& my muscles) forgot my PIN (not for the SIM card) and I had to do a factory reset.

Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by gambiting on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:55AM (#43277977)
Well it's not automatic 2 year prison sentence. The state charges you with a crime, it goes to trial, and then you have to defend yourself - if your argument is that you forgot, then it would be an interesting case - ultimately the prosecutor would need to prove that it's unlikely you forgot, say if they had proof (say CCTV recording at the airport) showing you using your phone 5 minutes before it was confiscated - it would be pretty hard to argue that in the space of those 5 minutes you forgot the password. But if you had a device in your suitcase and could successfully argue that you haven't used it in ages and the password was long and complex then yeah, I guess you'd be found not guilty - up to the judge/magister/jury depending on where exactly in the justice system you end up. But yeah, while stopped at the border saying "I forgot" is not a good card to play.
Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by Lanolderen on Thursday March 06, 2025 @05:58AM (#43278695)
It probably won't end well but I'm curious what would happen if you give them a password that resets the device. Theoretically it unlocks it, it's just that it takes a minute and it's factory new at that point.
Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by gambiting on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:35AM (#43281389)
They'd charge you with destroying evidence, or "perverting the course of justice". They aren't stupid, they would know that you gave them a password that wiped the device.
Re:Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order by joshuaissac on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:20PM (#43282677)
They would image the device and try the password against the image, if possible.