News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
[dead]
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gambiting on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:33PM (#43222789)
>>Russia defends Russian nationals on Ukraine from nazis.

Russia loves using this logic, which is completely bonkers. Just try to think from time to time?

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by mathfailure on Saturday March 01, 2025 @04:01PM (#43223644)
There are Russian nationals that live in almost all the countries all around the world. So that's not bonkers, the logic is sound.

Now what's important is when some region has mere fractures of a percent vs when its something like 25%. If your country has 25% Russians and you oppress them - I think Russia has obligation to defend them.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by dang on Saturday March 01, 2025 @05:02PM (#43224164)
No personal attacks, please, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gambiting on Saturday March 01, 2025 @05:11PM (#43224261)
I've just used the exact same wording they used against me few comments earlier - I should have known better though. Apologies.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by snozolli on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:11PM (#43222560)
If it was NATO DEFENDING ITSELF

That's exactly what it is and I have no idea what sort of insane, convoluted logic you use to come up with any other idea.

but then it turns out that its arms can be used OUTSIDE of that block

Ohhhh, I see. You believe that defending from an invading force means that you can't attack anything beyond the border? So Russia could just build an ammunition factory right across the border and Ukraine is somehow morally bound not to attack it? Completely insane.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by mathfailure on Saturday March 01, 2025 @04:08PM (#43223696)
Hol up. If you use the 'build an ammunition factory right across the border' argument - then Russia started defending itself beyond the border first!

First NATO expanded, and then Russia started defending itself on the territory of Ukraine.

I think you are either trolling or just have bugs in your logic.

Anyways, as fun as it was - I think it's time to stop arguing, it's as useless, as always. Everyone applies double standards (I probably do so too, unfortunately), no one's going to change their position.