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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by snozolli on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:11PM (#43222560)
If it was NATO DEFENDING ITSELF

That's exactly what it is and I have no idea what sort of insane, convoluted logic you use to come up with any other idea.

but then it turns out that its arms can be used OUTSIDE of that block

Ohhhh, I see. You believe that defending from an invading force means that you can't attack anything beyond the border? So Russia could just build an ammunition factory right across the border and Ukraine is somehow morally bound not to attack it? Completely insane.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by mathfailure on Saturday March 01, 2025 @04:08PM (#43223696)
Hol up. If you use the 'build an ammunition factory right across the border' argument - then Russia started defending itself beyond the border first!

First NATO expanded, and then Russia started defending itself on the territory of Ukraine.

I think you are either trolling or just have bugs in your logic.

Anyways, as fun as it was - I think it's time to stop arguing, it's as useless, as always. Everyone applies double standards (I probably do so too, unfortunately), no one's going to change their position.