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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by TylerE on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:44PM (#43210389)
When the “negotiated peace” is “Russia gets everything they want, you give us every dime and your treasury, and we don’t promise to actually help you when Russia attacks again after we let them re-arm for as long as they like”…. That isn’t a peace deal, it’s virtually unconditional surrender.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by jamiequint on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:22PM (#43211261)
Under what circumtances is the US allowed to pull out of a war they didn't start, which does not directly involve any US interests, in which we have already invested $110bn? Never? Not until we spend another $500bn we don't have?
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by m4rtink on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:00PM (#43213628)
The USA certainly is involved, they signed the Budapest Memorandum.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by lostdog on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:42PM (#43212681)
No one is arguing that the US isn't allowed to pull out.

But "negotiating" a treaty with the other side and then claiming that that treaty is the final word on the war is atrocious. That's what's crazy. Not ending US involvement, but trying to say that Ukraine must stop fighting.

Now, I also think the US should keep supporting Ukraine, but that's a totally different topic.

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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by TylerE on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:27PM (#43211403)
This isn’t pulling out. It’s embarassing an ally on the world stage while acting like the spoiled toddler and Putin asset that he is. This is not normal. This isn’t even bad. This is outside politics and just flat out treasonous.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @05:42AM (#43218016)
To be brutally frank, then you shouldn't have stopped Europe and the EU from building an independent military for the last few decades.

Like, it's totally fine that the US wants to return to isolation, but don't expect to keep all the benefits of the post 45 world order if you do so.

If I were a US citizen I'd probably be more concerned about the upcoming oil tariffs from Canada, but whatevs.

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