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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:30PM (#43210128)
American journalists are already getting silenced when talking up about the government. What EU county are you even talking about? Nowhere is it this bad in Europe.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by danem on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:38PM (#43210291)
Silenced as in, not given access to White House officials? Sorry but there is a difference between that and arresting people for things they say online.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/policing-speech-online-germany-...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:43PM (#43210374)
Not given access to the White House, threatened by legal action and ousted from their journals [1]. Is that enough or should we only start to act when they get disappeared?

Also, I won't cry for the two 4chan basement dwellers from your article getting to face the consequences of their despicable actions. Sorry, our definition of free speech does not include harassment and flurries of racial slurs. Literally 1984, I know.

[1] https://www.lemonde.fr/en/about-us/article/2025/02/26/in-the...

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by lijok on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:04PM (#43210830)
Any definition of free speech other than "absolute", will end up weaponized against yourself when the tides shift, no matter how virtuous you are.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:39PM (#43214586)
I'm sorry, is free speech absolute in your country? How would you feel about receiving daily credible death threats to you and your family? Or having a loved one kill themselves over being harassed online? All those things happen, quite often too. I'm glad they're illegal where I live and that I can ask our justice system to do something about it. And I think they're illegal in yours too.

Also, YOUR country is falling into authoritarianism, not mine, despite your "absolute free speech". Lies proliferation and rampant misinformation led to a President that is free from any accountability.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by danem on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:46PM (#43214146)
It is undeniable that European countries police speech more heavily than the US does. They have laws on the books that plainly give them this power. They exercise this power quite regularly. Feel free to argue that it is right for them to do so, but don't muddy the discussion attempting to redefine words.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:46PM (#43214638)
Which words did I redefine? Our free speech doesn't include hate speech but it is still called free speech in our constitution. And it's boundaries are still clearly defined, just like yours.

Also, I don't feel like there's anything to argue, look where allowing rampant misinformation and lies proliferation got your country. Your president is spitting Russian propaganda to Zalensky's face: "you started the war", "Russia will respect peace", "Europe only loaned money", etc. Your country is falling apart, not mine.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by 827a on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:39PM (#43210316)
American journalists aren't being silenced. One organization is being denied access to privileged executive spaces, which I disagree with and do not believe should be happening, but you need to be more honest in the language you use to describe what is happening. If you aren't, you're just as bad as the other side.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:47PM (#43210452)
It's quite a bit more than that: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/about-us/article/2025/02/26/in-the...

Also, let's not fall in false equivalences here.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by 827a on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:49PM (#43210499)
There's nothing else in that link beside the current situation with the AP. Don't just post links; use your words, and discuss in good faith.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by ein0p on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:34PM (#43210203)
Which ones? You'll have to be more specific.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by dkenyser on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:11PM (#43210998)
Oh they have to be more specific while you provide absolutely zero evidence for any of your claims?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:37PM (#43210253)