Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by lijok on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:04PM
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Any definition of free speech other than "absolute", will end up weaponized against yourself when the tides shift, no matter how virtuous you are.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:39PM
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I'm sorry, is free speech absolute in your country? How would you feel about receiving daily credible death threats to you and your family? Or having a loved one kill themselves over being harassed online? All those things happen, quite often too. I'm glad they're illegal where I live and that I can ask our justice system to do something about it. And I think they're illegal in yours too.
Also, YOUR country is falling into authoritarianism, not mine, despite your "absolute free speech". Lies proliferation and rampant misinformation led to a President that is free from any accountability.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by danem on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:46PM
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It is undeniable that European countries police speech more heavily than the US does. They have laws on the books that plainly give them this power. They exercise this power quite regularly. Feel free to argue that it is right for them to do so, but don't muddy the discussion attempting to redefine words.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by thrance on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:46PM
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Which words did I redefine? Our free speech doesn't include hate speech but it is still called free speech in our constitution. And it's boundaries are still clearly defined, just like yours.
Also, I don't feel like there's anything to argue, look where allowing rampant misinformation and lies proliferation got your country. Your president is spitting Russian propaganda to Zalensky's face: "you started the war", "Russia will respect peace", "Europe only loaned money", etc. Your country is falling apart, not mine.
Also, I won't cry for the two 4chan basement dwellers from your article getting to face the consequences of their despicable actions. Sorry, our definition of free speech does not include harassment and flurries of racial slurs. Literally 1984, I know.
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