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Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by mikeash on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @12:09PM (#4317958)
Can you explain what causes a piano that hasn't been tuned to lose the ability to stay tuned? It sounds interesting, and I can't quite figure out how that would work.
Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by UrLicht on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @12:11PM (#4317973)
The tuning pegs might become stuck to the side of the pegboard holes they are in. Also, if the strings are not kept at the correct tension, there is a real possibility of the iron frame becoming warped or even breaking.
Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by udp on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @12:12PM (#4317981)
Same thing happens with a guitar if you leave it without strings or heavily detuned. The neck can begin to warp and become very easy to break.
Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by soperj on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @02:53PM (#4319024)
That's also why you have a truss rod, to prevent/correct neck warping. I've never seen a neck that was easy to break though...
Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by Arjuna on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @12:52PM (#4318261)
To add to the discussion... the location of a piano has a large impact on its ability to maintain its tune. For example, humidity plays a major role with impacting the soundboard, as well as all of the various wooden components of the piano. In general, a piano should be located in a consistently-maintained environment with regard to humidity and temperature, away from windows and direct sources of cold and heat (e.g., HVAC registers).
Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by nucleardog on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @02:26PM (#4318879)
It usually doesn't. If the strings or pegs are worn out, those may need to be replaced, but from what I understand that's a fairly infrequent occurrence.

The strings are under a lot of tension, and if they're way out of tune simply cranking them a semitone back into tune won't do much. They won't stay put.

From the bit I've dealt with a piano tuner, they told that you're generally not supposed to tune it more than I believe it was about 4 cents each time (a semitone is 100 cents). It gives the strings and everything else a chance to adjust before tuning again. It's a similar idea to a guitar I think... If you just crank the tuning pegs around a few times it generally doesn't stay in tune very well. It needs to be a slow process.

If you've got an old, very out of tune piano it may take several tunings over a couple of years to bring it back into tune, but it should be do-able.

There's also humidity to take into account - you need to keep the humidity pretty constant while you do this or the wood will absorb/release water and change shape and bring the piano back out of tune.

Re:For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump by nateburke on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @02:17PM (#4318811)
It doesn't lose the ability to be tuned--the state of the piano merely drifts over time if it is not maintained--imagine your teeth drifting in your gums without a retainer, for example. If it spends 80 years warping a certain way, it will just take another 80 years of careful tuning to warp it back in a gentle, safe way. Most objects are not lucky enough to get 80 years of human attention after 80 years of inattention (stradivarius violins are a notable exception--these violins stay in tune just fine, despite being over 300 years old--they are nice enough that people have decided to keep tuning them).