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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by mikedelfino on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:45PM (#43105757)
Isn’t WhatsApp end-to-end encrypted?
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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by FergusArgyll on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @02:30PM (#43106367)
Yes it is, they actually use the signal protocol,[0] but they collect metadata which Signal supposedly doesn't (you can't really know)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol#:~:text=Severa...

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by inor0gu on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:29PM (#43107965)
Signal doesn't collect that data, but you have no reason to trust me on it.

Look at what data they can provide to governments when compelled by law: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by mmooss on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:57PM (#43105904)
I thought they recorded the metadata - who talks to who and when. (For the uninitiated, that is as valuable or more valuable than the message contents.)
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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by inor0gu on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:28PM (#43107946)
you also send them your contacts in plaintext so you can find who's also on WhatsApp; signal doesn't
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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Mistletoe on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @10:58PM (#43110936)
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/v7tsou/is_whatsapp...

It seems to be but there is more to it than that.

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