Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by snailmailstare on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @06:27PM
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Sounds reasonable, but why can't we just compare it, the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something?
> the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something
It can easily be measured from the time required to fully charge the phone (when turned off), and continuously monitoring the power it draws from the charger.
I'm pretty sure it isn't even that complicated. Reviewers just open it up and just look at the battery.
The exact mAh is only secret until the first non-Apple person who wants to know gets one.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by enragedcacti on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @08:35PM
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Apple generally doesn't publish their battery specs so we'll have to wait for it to get into reviewers hands
I don’t understand—if the frame is in the middle why can’t the MagSafe go on the outside?
It can. You can get a case that simply adds the MagSafe(/Qi2) alignment magnets and then you've got a MagSafe device (albeit limited to 7.5W charging)
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by enragedcacti on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @08:42PM
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It could, but as it is all the components are directly against the back glass. The magnets have thickness so the phone would have to be thicker or the battery would have to be thinner for everything to fit.
> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery"
According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by enragedcacti on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @08:38PM
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IMO somebody just made that up based on it sharing the outer dimensions of the iPhone 14 which also happens to have exactly 3279 mAh. I can't really figure out what "larger battery" could mean in their release video if it isn't larger than at least the 14 if not the 16.
I can’t understand how someone can say with certainty the capacity down to a single digit (3279).
There would be manufacturing differences that would induce at least some variation from phone-to-phone.
It is the capacity published by Apple. Apparently some regulatory bodies [1] require that information.
[1] https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/mobiles/mobiles-news/apple...
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by hnaccount_rng on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:54AM
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But it is an interesting question: What is the manufacturing tolerance? Naively I had assumed that it's much smaller than a watt-hour. But that's based on ~no knowledge :D
You can still have a specific "normal"/expected capacity, even if you're producing them +-20 mWh.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday February 22, 2025 @06:28AM
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Surely the battery is over-provisioned to be able to deliver the stated spec for at least some warranty period fraction?
Well it could be that the capacity is 3200-3349, and they publish the number that is in the center of confidence interval. Rounding up would be received badly, and rounding down suggests it has less capacity than it really does (on average)
It’s a nominal capacity that’s printed on the battery, and encoded into its firmware. In practice, batteries tend to exceed this nominal capacity when they’re brand new which is why you see new batteries stay on 100% charge for a long time. As it ages, the true capacity will degrade and eventually falls below the nominal capacity.
The iPhone 16e is based on the iPhone 14 chassis, with various internal hardware components swapped out. Just like the previous iPhone SE was based on the iPhone 8. So I guess there was an assumption that maybe it uses the same battery as the 14.
But given that the cameras got swapped out for a single lens, the MagSafe magnets were removed, etc, it’s certainly conceivable that they freed up space internally for a larger battery in the 16e!
Though, the youtube commercial states new internal design “optimized for new battery”.
With almost everyone using a case, magsafe doesn’t really need to be in the phone, it would probably be fine if it’s just in the case.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by amazingman on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:25AM
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A lot of cases pass through the MagSafe. I personally charge almost exclusively via MagSafe desk and night stands. My phone is in a case.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
by hombre_fatal on Thursday February 20, 2025 @09:39AM
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I found that this heats up the battery thus shortening its lifespan for no good reason if a cable is available.
Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit flush with the frame in a huge circular cutout just below the back glass. The hole weakens the frame so the frame has to be thicker because of it.
I don't think there is really a world where this phone gets 6 more hours of battery life while still having magsafe and fitting into the existing shape of the iPhone 14.
https://youtu.be/mFuyX1XgJFg?t=227