Yeah, so many people aren't capable of talking about anything Musk-adjacent with clear thoughts. It's insane how quickly xAI went from not existing, to the top of the benchmarks.

I think people here are thinking very clearly about Musk and his various projects.

Not sure about people elsewhere though.

Depends what you mean by "people here". I mean, obviously the majority of HN commentators and even the majority of commentators on this thread seem to be. But there will always be a couple of slightly unhinged folk in a big enough group of readers.

Can't you just take DeepSeek and put it behind an API and get to the top of the benchmarks immediately?

I'm not sure what you mean here? Musk has a history of doing both incredibly useful and cool things, and also incredibly dumb, cruel, and for some people even terrible things. That context should be part of any clear thinking around him. He does not get a clean slate in every new discussion of him.

There are widespread, legitimate concerns about what kind of person Elon Musk is turning out to be. There is a lot of chatter about fears of China's AI rise, but what happens if we get Elon's brand of cruelty and lack of empathy in an authoritarian superintelligent AI ? Is that the AI future we want? Can you imagine an SAI with real power that interacts with people like Elon does on Twitter? I am not sure that is a future I want to live in.

We’re trying to talk about the capabilities of Grok and you can only focus on Musk. That’s what I’m talking about.

Don’t defend a persona over substance. His concerns are valid and relevant to the discussion.

You cant see this separate from Musk. Musk isnt a business as usual type.

It’s relevant to the subject since he owns it.

There would be no Grok without Musk, any discussion of Grok is going to involve discussion of Musk as well.