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Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by taspeotis on Monday February 17, 2025 @01:53AM (#43075986)
Don’t they have a 12 month warranty? What do you want Amazon to do after more than 12 months? 10% discount is above and beyond their obligations.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by callc on Monday February 17, 2025 @02:26AM (#43076174)
Have human wellbeing as the priority in making products.

Treat users with respect.

Make hardware open, firmware open, repairable.

Let’s be honest here, there are user hostile products and pro-user products. Let’s make making user hostile products illegal / unprofitable with laws.

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by averageRoyalty on Monday February 17, 2025 @02:30AM (#43076194)
For the record, my Kindle died after 4 years and Amazon replaced it. That one died after 2 and they replaced it again - all free. Australian Consumer Law is required to be followed if they want to trade here. If you want respect, speak to your lawmakers.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by jamesy0ung on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:49AM (#43076699)
ACL is fantastic, gotten my 2017 MacBook Pro 15" fixed multiple times for free even out of applecare, last time it was fixed, it was 6 years old. Had issues with the keyboard, and the screen. Seems to be a common issue with this model.

https://gregsamborski.com/macbook-pro-led-screen-discolorati...

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by sharpshadow on Monday February 17, 2025 @04:25AM (#43076886)
I thought 4 years is not bad at all but it’s even better because „consumer guarantee rights under the Australian Consumer Law, … don’t have a specific expiry date“ and „apply for a period of time that is considered reasonable having regard to the nature of the products or services“[0].

0. https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/broken-but-out-of-warr...

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by lwhi on Monday February 17, 2025 @02:00AM (#43076019)
It's completely reasonable to expect it to last longer than 12 months, especially considering this is their premium model.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by donalhunt on Monday February 17, 2025 @04:15AM (#43076823)
In Europe, consumers should be getting longer protection than 1 year. May require a fight / small claims court submission to exercise one's rights.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by lostlogin on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:06AM (#43076420)
Here in Mew Zealand we have the consumer guarantees act. Stuff needs to last for a duration commensurate with its price. Nice and vague and super good for the consumer.

An iPhone can generally get fixed under warranty for 2-3 years. I’ve never tried a Kindle but the premium model should get 2 years without too much fuss.

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by IanCal on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:03AM (#43076402)
Consumer protections in the UK and EU means they have to last a reasonable length of time, and if not you get a proportional refund (or repair, or replace). I've had refunds from devices several years old.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by netfortius on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:03AM (#43076405)
Amazon is [d]evolving the concept of "owning" what you paid for - slowly, but surely [1]

[1] https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/amazon-removing-download...

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by karparov on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:12AM (#43076466)
12 months is a laughable amount of time. Sadly, companies have normalized such short periods of time, so much so that everybody would give me looks when I say that 5 or 10 years would be more appropriate. Especially tech folks, so I'm expecting pushback in a forum like HN.

My in-laws have a few kitchen appliances from the 80s. Still working rock-solid. Not the wifi-enabled modern crap with some shitty cloud-based app that you need to replace all the time.

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by eloisant on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:55AM (#43076721)
In Europe the minimum is 2 years, but I agree it's still too short.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by karparov on Monday February 17, 2025 @07:27AM (#43078203)
That's kinda my point. Two years are better than one, but celebrating it as the achievement is really missing the bigger picture (and is a great success of lobbying work)
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday February 17, 2025 @02:11AM (#43076078)
Yes, every device should fail immediately upon warranty expiration.

You should build a company founded on that principle.

Call it GTL Pty Ltd

Formerly known as Guaranteed To Last, but they dropped that naming and are now know simple as GTL after a social media smear campaign where people were saying ‘guaranteed to be the last thing you ever buy from that company’.

Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by wizzwizz4 on Monday February 17, 2025 @01:34PM (#43081914)
Oh, come on, they could totally own that smear campaign. "Guaranteed to be the last [class of device] you ever buy, unless you give it away." Something something heirlooms, put together a simple, 30-second narrative for the advertisement campaign, job done.
Re:All Kindles can now be jailbroken by simion314 on Monday February 17, 2025 @02:14AM (#43076101)
Would be normal/natural if we could change the batteries and not throw away devices when the battery fails even more natural when the device is not dirt cheep.