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Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by DoesntMatter22 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:28AM (#43068301)
Most of the abandoning of Java was due to Ruby on Rails not JavaScript.
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by phpnode on Sunday February 16, 2025 @10:06AM (#43068565)
No chance, relatively few software companies ever adopted Rails but a huge number went from Java or .NET -> JS/TS. The draw of cross project code reuse and having teams only needing to know a single language remains compelling.
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by DoesntMatter22 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @12:17PM (#43069664)
Java was largely already being abandoned before NodeJS existed. A huge percentage of the web 2.0 companies were built on Rails. Twitter, Github, Shopify, AirBnB, Groupon, SoundCloud, Instacart were all built on Rails. It maybe flew beneath your radar but it was a phenomenon at the time, way before Node.js even existed.
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by phpnode on Sunday February 16, 2025 @04:57PM (#43072127)
Those examples aren't representative of the broader industry though. There are far more devs working at former Java and .NET shops that have never written a single line of Ruby and are all in on JS/TS now
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by DoesntMatter22 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:57PM (#43074091)
What you are saying is hyperbole. They are "All" in JS/TS now? I never said JS wasn't bigger than Rails, but Rails was the first and biggest axe to fall against Java. JS just took the baton from them
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by phpnode on Monday February 17, 2025 @09:40AM (#43079459)
I said they've gone "all in", not that they're all using JS/TS now
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by abraxas on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:33AM (#43068334)
Not where I am. Maybe a peculiarity of the community I'm in but here it was all Node all the time after Java was declared uncool.
Re:Rust Is Eating JavaScript by DoesntMatter22 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @12:19PM (#43069685)
Java took a ton of heat in 2005-2009 (before Node existed) because Rails came through and was eating it's lunch. It's the reason that a huge percentage of the successful Web 2.0 companies were built using Rails, not Java or .NET.