Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by flumpcakes on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:38PM
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There is such a large gulf between the two you could name it the Gulf of America. This false equivalence "both sides"-ism is ridiculous when one side is actively harming America which will remain for probably an entire generation to come.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by bitmasher9 on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:44PM
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Both sides are actively harming America in ways that will remain for more than a generation. The growing deficit will force us to devalue the dollar, which will remove the status of global reserve currency. This inevitably is going to raise the price of imports, which is why both sides are focusing on reshoring strategic manufacturing.
Currently we are getting a pass because all currencies are being devalued, and ours is devaluing slower than others. Growing deficits might cause us to devalue faster, or economic recovery might push foreign currencies into a stronger position.
EDIT: I’m not arguing that both sides are the same, or that one side isn’t better than the other. I’m arguing that neither side is taking our long term interests to heart.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by mindslight on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:53PM
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You've got the causality backwards. Pulling back from the world and ending the US as a source of stability will destroy the status of global reserve currency. And the focus on the "deficit" (which tacitly ignores all the artificially-cheap loans given to the financial industry by the Federal Reserve) is just a kayfabe partisan point rather than a real analysis. In actuality that high price inflation from the first Trump term caused the first shred of fiscal responsibility from the Fed that we've seen in over two decades. Our country would be in a much better state if monetary creation could have continued with deliberate spending on domestic industry rather than being directed back at the everything bubble plus some magical-thinking tariffs.
they aren't very intelligent and have the inability to read news sources produced outside of the US.
why waste your time
Define "America". Your side believes that a billion people from all over the world could come here and it would still be "America" so I'm not sure what you even mean when you say someone is "actively harming" it.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by micromacrofoot on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:37PM
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The political pressure being applied was already extraordinary relative to the charges, had the current administration not been making more serious threats toward the exiting president's family then the pardon wouldn't have been necessary.
Leaving this context out is poor faith.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by gjsman-1000 on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:41PM
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He also pardoned Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley, his brother, his sister, their spouses; but curiously, if this argument held water, why did he not pardon Jack Smith?
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by micromacrofoot on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:42PM
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These are all people the incoming trump administration had threatened
It had nothing to do with Trump making it clear he would go after Bidens family...
So it's okay that anybody in Trump's White House can break any law? I disagreed with Biden pardoning his son and I disagree with this.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by anothereng on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:36PM
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yes, left leaning people are now pretending like every thing is bad
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by sschueller on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:35PM
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Exactly, the pardon power should be taken away from the president and moved into a non partisan committee or something like that for these innocent rotting in prison.
It should also be illegal (which it is as far as I know) to retaliate against your political enemies.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by gjsman-1000 on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:36PM
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Well, in that case, that’s great news for Elon Musk. If Kamala wins the next election, according to you, it should be illegal to retaliate against him.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by sschueller on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:39PM
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That's not the same thing. Prosecuting someone for a crime they committed should always be done but firing someone for doing their jobs (FBI investigating j6) should not be allowed. Unless of course you broke the law at your job.
Civil servants (as are FBI agents) should be protected from arbitrary dismissal. The only exception I can imagine is political appointees, which can misplace their loyalty on the person who nominated them over the country.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by gjsman-1000 on Friday February 14, 2025 @12:41PM
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Well, that’s also great news for Elon Musk and Trump; they are arguing their political retaliation is also merely the investigation of crime; and frankly, just look at Hunter’s laptop in any tabloid, and it’s patently clear there is at least some truth to this (it’s not black-and-white). At some point the line is completely gray and politically up to opinion.
Re:DOGE Website Hacked
by ivewonyoung on Friday February 14, 2025 @01:40PM
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Biden may beat Kamala again in the 2028 primaries and get elected just like he did in 2020.
Despite four years of saying he would absolutely not do this. Not even for a specific crime either - just a blanket decade of immunity.
Enough of your partisan bickering; it goes both ways.