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Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @07:46PM (#43007440)
the shoes, the tooth paste, the water… are all necessary security theatre. the real work is happening behind the scenes. but the theatre is also necessary (albeit not as dramatic as we have it now :) )
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by insane_dreamer on Monday February 10, 2025 @07:50PM (#43007490)
how is the theatre also necessary?
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @07:57PM (#43007570)
it is necessary so that some Adam Lanza-wannabe doesn’t get any ideas on how to quickly become infamous
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by cogman10 on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:15PM (#43007735)
The school shooters do that because it's shocking and gets in the news. We have so many crowded situations throughout the world where an equal splash could be made.

We need about as much security around the airport as we need around a subway or a concert.

After the dark knight shooting, we didn't find the need to put up xray scanners in every movie theater. It's dumb to do that with airports.

Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:31PM (#43007881)
We need about as much security around the airport as we need around a subway or a concert.

as soon as we have 2.7 million people in subway and/or concert daily in the US you'd be right... until then...

Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by cogman10 on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:34PM (#43007908)
NYC has 3.6 million daily riders. So guess I'm right.
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:57PM (#43008089)
NYC is an island... doing shit on the NYC subway disrupts bunch of people living on a (largely populated) island. doing shit on airplanes causes country-wide (and beyond) issues.
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by cogman10 on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:15PM (#43008202)
> doing shit on airplanes causes country-wide (and beyond) issues.

Like what?

In the absolute worst case it grounds flights nation wide and 100 people die. In the grand scheme of things that's a minor hiccup and not a likely outcome. We saw a bigger impact from the polar vortex.

The security simply doesn't match the value.

I'll remind you that 70 people died from an airplane accident. Tragic, but we were hardly impacted by it. When you talk about 2.7 million flyers, the impact of a few hundred dying a year still makes it one of the safest forms of travel.

Airplanes aren't special and shouldn't have the annoying special security treatment they do today.

Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:09PM (#43008852)
if few hundred died per year that number 2.7 would not be millions but maybe hundreds :)
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by cogman10 on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:25PM (#43008954)
A few hundred do die per year. In 2023 it was 327.
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by saagarjha on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @05:28AM (#43011147)
You do realize where the twin towers were, right?
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by Lammy on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:31PM (#43007879)
Security theater guarantees a giant line of people right in the front where that crowd is most easily accessible instead of at the back if those people could go straight to their gates. I would rather see news media stop making every one of those people infamous so it ceases to be a way to get a bunch of attention.
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by bdangubic on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:41PM (#43007973)
I would rather see news media stop making every one of those people infamous so it ceases to be a way to get a bunch of attention.

amen! but we know that ain't happening

Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by sealeck on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:49PM (#43008041)
That's like imagining school shooters won't get an AR-15 and do a school shooting because you put an otherwise unarmed guy with a baton by the front gate.
Re:Why hasn't commercial air travel gotten any faster since ... by jghn on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:43PM (#43028979)
It's "necessary" because the TSA is largely just a jobs program, albeit one that is palatable to the median American.