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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by Retric on Friday February 07, 2025 @10:49AM (#42974033)
A better question is why does Japan use Both 60 Hz and 50 Hz in different areas? And that’s really just a legacy from early decisions at different companies when the grid was first introduced, and there’s never been a sufficiently compelling reason for either to swap.

60 Hz is slightly better in terms of flickering, but neither has enough advantages to really be a determining factor on their own.

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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by mywittyname on Friday February 07, 2025 @10:59AM (#42974161)
Isn't this a side effect of one area of Japan building their electrical grid with components from British manufactures while the other used American-made components?
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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by nom on Friday February 07, 2025 @05:19PM (#42978160)
yeah, they had to buy what they can get.

IIRC it was German AEG and General Electric

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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by sidewndr46 on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:12AM (#42974304)
US did the same, Southern California was 50 Hz at first. It didn't convert until after WWII
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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by applied_heat on Friday February 07, 2025 @12:13PM (#42975038)
There was 25 Hz infrastructure in Ontario until the 1950s

https://www.lifebynumbers.ca/history/the-rise-and-fall-of-25...

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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by cf100clunk on Friday February 07, 2025 @01:03PM (#42975570)
Yep, the government had to go house-by-house, building-by-building replacing all electrically powered devices that could not be adapted. Thankfully it also happened early in the era of electronic devices.
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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by sidewndr46 on Friday February 07, 2025 @03:24PM (#42977057)
it's substantially easier to run modern electronics off random frequency power than other stuff like an induction motor. A typical power supply is rated for 47 Hz- 63 Hz. But it'll happily run off almost anything higher than 10 hz and lower than 1000 hz.

universal motors in particular do not care at all about frequency

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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by sidewndr46 on Friday February 07, 2025 @03:22PM (#42977032)
oh wow, 25 Hz was supplied to homes? I know New Orleans still has some pumps that run on some oddball frequency. It's part of the reason why they never work during the storms (when you need them). The "grid" is just a set of colocated generation sets
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Re:Baltic countries disconnect from the Russian power grid by throw0101d on Saturday February 08, 2025 @07:41AM (#42982562)
From the above link:

    Sir Adam Beck #1 ten 25 Hz generating units were converted 
    to 60 Hz or modified as follows:
    
    Units 9 and 10 to 60 Hz in 1956
    Unit 3 to 60 Hz in 1970
    Unit 4 to 60 Hz in 1984
    Unit 5 to 60 Hz in 1985
    Unit 8 to 60 Hz in 1990
    Unit 6 to 60 Hz in 1996
    Unit 7 to 60 Hz in 2009
2009! Talk about legacy support.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Adam_Beck_Hydroelectric_Ge...

* https://www.opg.com/stories/opgs-sir-adam-beck-i-hydro-stati...

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