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Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by smitty1e on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:13PM (#42968879)
> I'm incredibly depressed and disillusioned to see fellow software engineers drinking the Kool-aid so deeply while they dismantle the US federal government.

Please point to a single component of the US federal government in its founding document, the Constitution, that has received as much as a glance.

The last century of cruft, corruptly driven by people not standing for election is where the action is found.

$37T of debt later, we're at the end of a cycle.

Let's just make sure DOGE is not a cure worse than the disease.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by Trasmatta on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:15PM (#42968891)
DOGE is not about waste, it's about continuing to bypass Congress and consolidate power in the executive branch.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by programmerpass on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:19PM (#42968929)
Which, is badly needed.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by Trasmatta on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:21PM (#42968958)
Comments like this remind me that many Americans genuinely want a dictator

It's baffling

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:24PM (#42968987)
How did you come to that conclusion from their comment?
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by ajcp on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:41PM (#42969109)
-> consolidate power in the executive

-> which is badly needed

In the US power is divided between three branches of government to prevent any one bench from becoming too powerful through checks and balances. Consolidation of power in one branch would mean unchecked, dictatorial powers.

-> How did you come to that conclusion from their comment?

How did you not?

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:42PM (#42969119)
None of that implies a dictatorship. Also, consolidation in the executive branch does not imply removal of the others.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by unsnap_biceps on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:21PM (#42969343)
Where does the consolidated power come from if it's not from the other two branches?

Power here is a zero sum game.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Friday February 07, 2025 @05:57AM (#42971303)
It’s consolidated within the executive branch…
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by Trasmatta on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:25PM (#42969009)
Consolidating power in the executive branch is about creating a dictatorship. How could it be anything else? They're trying to neuter the other branches of government. Trump has explicitly and repeatedly expressed a desire to be a dictator.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:29PM (#42969030)
Not really - if you’ve studied political science there’s a concept called unitary executive theory, which basically says in the USA the president has unilateral control of the entire executive branch.

What’s happening here isn’t really the forming of a dictatorship, it’s more single party alignment coupled with a majority in the three branches.

For example there’s nothing stopping congress from sending articles of impeachment followed by removal, other than the fact that there’s no consensus. But there’s no consensus because there’s alignment on the current activities.

TLDR: a sufficient amount of congress implicitly endorses trumps activities.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by Trasmatta on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:34PM (#42969066)
> TLDR: a sufficient amount of congress implicitly endorses trumps activities.

Which is because Congress has been captured by the autocrat that wants to turn himself into a dictator. They've rolled over and are allowing it to happen. They are setting up a system that will allow them to hold into power for perpetuity, and prevent future elections from changing that.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:36PM (#42969078)
I’ll believe it when a constitutional amendment happens.

In any case congress has hardly been captured. People keep saying this nonsense as if it’s been many years. It hasn’t even been a month. Once the constituents digest the activity congress will adjust accordingly.

Most of trumps EOs have been blocked or frozen for now. The system is balancing as intended.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by motorest on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:47PM (#42969141)
> Not really - if you’ve studied political science there’s a concept called unitary executive theory, which basically says (...)

If you read up on unitary executive theory, you won't need to look too hard to stumble upon the fact that it is rejected as being sugar-coated totalitarianism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_backsliding_in_th...

So you're trying to refute the totalitarian push represented by Trump's abuses with a theory that is known to represent a totalitarian push.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:48PM (#42969146)
Why do you think I’m trying to refute or support anything? Not everything is a battle.

Some people think it’s valid that the president be the absolute executive. I have no opinion on whether that should be true or not.

Even if the president was the absolute executive, they still wouldn’t be a dictator.

When trumps EOs no longer can be blocked by judges I’ll believe he is one. Until then we still have our checks and balances.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by tomrod on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:05PM (#42969257)
Having lived under authoritarianism, I strongly urge you to firmly and swiftly form a negative opinion regarding an executive fully exetcising bypass of the legislature and courts.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:21PM (#42969341)
Ok, but that’s not happening in USA. Trumps stuff is already being blocked.

I encourage you to read what’s actually happening and not just headlines or tweets.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by motorest on Friday February 07, 2025 @12:43AM (#42969793)
> Ok, but that’s not happening in USA.

It clearly is.

> Trumps stuff is already being blocked.

That's like claiming there isn't a rape problem because a rapist attempts at raping someone is already being blocked.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by amazingamazing on Friday February 07, 2025 @05:58AM (#42971307)
What a dumb analogy.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by tomrod on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:49AM (#42974759)
It was perfectly apt for the situation.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by 3vidence on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:23PM (#42968976)
Americans have the some of the cheapest housing and highest salaries in the world and look around and cry foul.

The biggest thing holding poorer Americans back is lack of education opportunities and wage theft by their employers.

What does this department do to address those issues?

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by GiorgioG on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:36PM (#42969080)
> Americans have the some of the cheapest housing and highest salaries in the world and look around and cry foul.

I must be living in a different America then.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by 3vidence on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:14PM (#42969302)
Have you genuinely tried to compare the salaries vs cost of living in the US vs other countries?

You would genuinely be surprised. Financially the thing that leads most Americans to bankruptcy is medical debt.

Another factor primarily lead by private industry taking advantage of people.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by GiorgioG on Friday February 07, 2025 @12:53PM (#42975450)
The US is a big place. Living NYC is not cheaper than London. If you live in the middle of the US, you're not making NYC money.
Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by 3vidence on Sunday February 09, 2025 @12:22PM (#42991989)
The height of money in NYC is almost unlike anything in the world, including London.

The mediums of places like Pittsburgh is still much higher than most cities on earth.

Americans struggle with wealth inequality not raw wealth. One of the mechanisms to redistribute wealth is the government itself.

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by XorNot on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:21PM (#42968955)
The current administration signed an executive order to revoke birth right citizenship[1] in direct contravention of the 14th amendment.

[1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prot...

Re:Elon Musk's Demolition Crew by UltraSane on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:19PM (#42968932)
Musk is a liar who lies all the time and is lying about the purpose of DOGE. His actual goal is to settle scores and shut down any departments that he doesn't like. What is is doing is VERY illegal and a Democratic DOJ could very well arrest him for it.

What is in the constitution is that ONLY Congress has the power to control spending tax dollars. DOGE has no legal authority to stop any payments that Congress has approved.