Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything

Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by therein on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @03:55PM (#42954985)

How does it behave if the body of text is offensive or what if it is talking about a recipe to purify UF-6 gas at home? Will it stop doing what it is doing and enter lecturing mode?

I am asking not to be cynical but because of my limited experience with using LLMs for any task that may operate on offensive or unknown input seems to get triggered by all sorts of unpredictable moral judgements and dragged into generating not the output I wanted, at all.

If I am asking this black box to give me a JSON output containing keywords for a certain text, if it happens to be offensive, it refuses to do that.

How does one tackle with that?

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Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by zacmps on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:31PM (#42955472)

It's not something I've needed to deal with personally.

We have run into added content filters in Azure OpenAI on a different application, but we just put in a request to tune them down for us.

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Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by xnx on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:37PM (#42955555)

There are many settings for changing the safety level in Gemini API calls: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/safety-settings

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Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by shijithpk on Thursday February 06, 2025 @07:05AM (#42961586)

This is for anyone coming across this link later. In their latest SDKs, if you want to completely switch off their safety settings, the flag to use is 'OFF' and not 'BLOCK_NONE' as mentioned in the docs in the link above.

The Gemini docs don't refect that change yet. https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/safety-settings-2025-update-...

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Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by sumedh on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:02PM (#42955905)

Try setting the safety params to none and see if that makes any difference.

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Re:Ingesting PDFs and why Gemini 2.0 changes everything by devjab on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:20PM (#42959036)

We use the Azure models and there isn't an issue with safety filters as such for enterprise customers. The one time we had an issue microsoft changed the safety measures. Of course the safety measures we might meet are the sort of engineering which could be interpreted as weapons manufacturing, and not "political" as such. Basically the safety guard rails seem to be added on top of all these models, which means they can also be removed without impacting the model. I could be wrong on that, but it seems that way.

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