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Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by ToucanLoucan on Monday February 03, 2025 @07:34PM (#42925629)
Truly, what do you even do as the CCP or some other party that would like to spread anti-American propaganda? Literally just point to the actual, factual state of this country and tell me it isn't a rolling joke.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by onemoresoop on Monday February 03, 2025 @07:57PM (#42925887)
CCP is no stranger to chaos and self sabotage either. China is probably the least affected and most likely still standing in one piece
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by theossuary on Monday February 03, 2025 @07:59PM (#42925911)
Thats how most propaganda works. Russia, for example, has been publicizing cases of extreme racism in the US for years to demoralize black people. [1] Hell this has been going on since WWII, when other countries saw how the US treated their black troops, and used it to damage loyalty. [2]

Nothing works like the truth, if the US could just stop being so racist it'd be that much harder to divide us. It seems like that's fundementally against our nature though.

1. https://www.npr.org/2017/10/30/560042987/russians-targeted-u...

2. https://perspectives.ushmm.org/item/german-leaflet-for-black...

Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by epolanski on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:34PM (#42926299)
US is a racist country though, at least at the government level. See how BLM and January 6th demonstrations got treated.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by jimmygrapes on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:23PM (#42926857)
It took bipartisan pardons/commutations across 2 disparately ideological faction leaders to even the outcomes for both groups of people who purportedly aimed to overthrow the government that let them all be free.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by ToucanLoucan on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:52PM (#42927132)
Black Lives Matter only sought to "overthrow" the system in place if you presume first that racism is a core component of it.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by philosopher1234 on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:49PM (#42927106)
So the outcomes are even now?
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by lenerdenator on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:49PM (#42926457)
The thing that makes it a wedge issue that's useful for propaganda isn't that the US is racist, it's that the US is racist while (ostensibly) aspiring to be more in its creed.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by cscurmudgeon on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:51PM (#42927128)
The funny thing is Russia an China can claim to be less racist as they are homogenous societies.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by lovich on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:00PM (#42927731)
If you were not aware, Russia is famously diverse and a large number of their oblasts(province level equivalent jurisdictions) are drawn up along ethnic lines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by commiepatrol on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:09PM (#42927302)
Russia is homogenous? Interesting.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by eszed on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:55PM (#42927694)
China is homogeneous?
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by dralley on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:54PM (#42927685)
... What?

That is completely nonsense. Absolutely ludicrous.

Neither Russia nor China are homogenous. Both have large Muslim minorities (and both are be pretty racist against them). Eastern Russians are not European descended and are looked down on by Western Russians. Tibetans are not Han Chinese.

Even the Asian nations that actually are pretty "homogenous" like Japan and Korea are also famously pretty racist.

Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by kelipso on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:16PM (#42927862)
There are also a ton of other ethnic groups in China and the government just call them all Han Chinese. Tons of ethnic groups in Russia too. These are countries with very long histories that span a large area, with many areas that were multiple kingdoms, tribes, etc. Makes perfect sense that they would have a lot of different ethnic groups.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by rsynnott on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @06:00AM (#42930851)
... Homogenous in _what way_?!

They're both the remnants of large land empires, each incorporating many ethnicities, languages, religions... They are not at all homogenous.

Like, that whole thing with the Uyghurs, what did you think that was about? Or Chechnya?

Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by mayneack on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:57PM (#42927179)
There's a museum in Shanghai with posters going back to Mao that take the same strategy. Lots of highlighting American racism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Poster_Art_Centre

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g308272-d18871...

Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by DonHopkins on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:25PM (#42927448)
The Republican party could pull a 180 and stop instituting policies that prove CCP anti-American propoganda correct, and pass universal health care, free education, civil rights, and all those other socialist freedom crushing commie pinko ideologies.
Re:US Bill Proposes Jail Time for People Who Download DeepSeek by johnnyanmac on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:04PM (#42938662)
It's open source, hosted on an American Github server. If you don't trust it, prove it.

If you really don't trust it, copy the algorithms without forking it. That's the big allure of OSS. You should be scutinous, but you should be able to base that scrutiny on cold hard facts.