Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
by femto on Friday January 31, 2025 @04:45PM
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In the HN discussion you link to, I went through exactly the process that you are going through now! I too thought the censorship was just a thin wrapper around the model, as I had not understood the article I had read until it was explained to me.
Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
by m00dy on Saturday February 01, 2025 @02:52AM
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Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
by pgkr on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:21AM
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Hi! Thanks for writing this. We conducted some analysis of our own that produced some pretty interesting results from the 671B model: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42918935
Please reach out to us if you'd like to look at the dataset.
It was great to put together a writeup of a fun evening or two of work. It looks like this goes much deeper.
I'm learning a lot from some of the linked articles, one of the base hypothesise of my work was that the filtering was distinct from the model, due to the cost of training with pre-filtered or censored data at scale: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.10719, let alone- making it generate a consistent response.
However, it looks like this goes further, a separate comment linked this article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42858552 on Chain-Of-Thought abandonment when certain topics are discussed.
I'll have to look at served vs trained censorship, in different context.