Be a bit careful of "whataboutism". It is a cognitive fallacy

Canada's civil society collapsing does not mean that the USA's civil society is not. Perhaps they both are?

I think that the social fabric in both countries can take the punishment for a decade or two. It will be some time before they collapse.

This isn't whataboutism, it's some perspective that what's happening in America is merely reverting back to what's normal in liberal western democracies and thus not "crazy".

The only thing I find crazy about the US right now is the media reaction.

Defending borders? Jus sanguinis? Only 2 genders? Cutting spending? Tariffs? Literally so normal it's boring.

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Unsubstantive, sure, I agree, but I don’t see how expressing a sentiment of disbelief and suspicion of trolling (or however it may be called) this way is “flamebait”.

Posting "is this satire" is an internet trope, a way of snarkily putting down what someone else said. In that way, it's a provocation and in that way flamebait.

If that explanation doesn't land, there are other site guidelines which maybe make the point more directly, such as "Don't be snarky", "Edit out swipes", and/or "Omit internet tropes".

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

i see, thank you for clarifying

> Is anyone on pace to meet those targets? Canada isn't.

India, one of the poorest countries by per capita GDP met its target before deadline. Better than looking at others, US need to ensure that it meets its own targets. Because its the sole super power and at an international level without US leading sustainability, there is no hope for the rest of us.