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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by cdelsolar on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @03:52PM (#42871014)
it's not crazy to suspend all federal grants, get us out of the Paris accord when the world is rapidly heating up, try to put RFK Jr, a vaccine denier, in charge of our health, rename the goddamn Gulf of Mexico, unconstitutionally order that people born on American soil are not necessarily Americans anymore, which has been the case for at least 150 years, withdraw from the WHO, launch hourly raids to deport people, many of whom are actually American citizens?
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dismalaf on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @05:24PM (#42872051)
> suspend all federal grants

Not really.

> get us out of the Paris accord when the world is rapidly heating up

Is anyone on pace to meet those targets? Canada isn't.

> try to put RFK Jr, a vaccine denier, in charge of our health,

Our health minister is a random politician who took poly sci and history...

> rename the goddamn Gulf of Mexico

Things get renamed all the time... It's not crazy.

> people born on American soil are not necessarily Americans anymore

Jus soli is the exception in the world and in history. For example, every European country has jus sanguinis...

> launch hourly raids to deport people

Enforcing laws is the normal state of affairs in the world...

> many of whom are actually American citizens?

I doubt this one, got any proof?

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by worik on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @06:09PM (#42872528)
Be a bit careful of "whataboutism". It is a cognitive fallacy

Canada's civil society collapsing does not mean that the USA's civil society is not. Perhaps they both are?

I think that the social fabric in both countries can take the punishment for a decade or two. It will be some time before they collapse.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dismalaf on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:01PM (#42873052)
This isn't whataboutism, it's some perspective that what's happening in America is merely reverting back to what's normal in liberal western democracies and thus not "crazy".

The only thing I find crazy about the US right now is the media reaction.

Defending borders? Jus sanguinis? Only 2 genders? Cutting spending? Tariffs? Literally so normal it's boring.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by ulbu on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:55AM (#42875295)
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dang on Thursday January 30, 2025 @01:18AM (#42875404)
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by ulbu on Thursday January 30, 2025 @06:17AM (#42876774)
Unsubstantive, sure, I agree, but I don’t see how expressing a sentiment of disbelief and suspicion of trolling (or however it may be called) this way is “flamebait”.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dang on Friday January 31, 2025 @02:06AM (#42885302)
Posting "is this satire" is an internet trope, a way of snarkily putting down what someone else said. In that way, it's a provocation and in that way flamebait.

If that explanation doesn't land, there are other site guidelines which maybe make the point more directly, such as "Don't be snarky", "Edit out swipes", and/or "Omit internet tropes".

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by ulbu on Friday January 31, 2025 @05:35AM (#42886427)
i see, thank you for clarifying
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by rishav_sharan on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:29PM (#42874862)
> Is anyone on pace to meet those targets? Canada isn't.

India, one of the poorest countries by per capita GDP met its target before deadline. Better than looking at others, US need to ensure that it meets its own targets. Because its the sole super power and at an international level without US leading sustainability, there is no hope for the rest of us.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by germandiago on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:01PM (#42874703)
> when the world is rapidly heating up

I think it would do no harm to know that the Earth had a glaciar era (at least, I am not sure it was more than one), 10 times more carbon dioxide than now at some point and that weather always changed in history. All without humans being involved. Do not take as facts the propaganda of "it is humans and only humans who are making the temperature change".

If I am not wrong the greenhouse gas for carbon dioxide is a small percentage (I do not remember if it was 3%, from which only a fraction is generated by humans). The water vapor (which is a greenhouse gas also) accounts for like 90% or more, by the effect of the sun in the water, and noone talks about this in the media. Also, the most catastrophic models are usually chosen instead of other alternative models.

There are also multiple reports of how data was deliberately hidden or manipulated: https://www.libertaddigital.com/ciencia/que-es-el-watergate-... (in spanish, some evidence of manipulation about the climate change, which was conveniently renamed from "Global warming" at some point, bc in the last 20 years there has been no such "global warming"). I think there was a record in the mass of ice registered in Antartica in year 2017 if I am not wrong...

Smells really bad all this story at this point, to be honest.