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Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by sheepdestroyer on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @01:40PM (#42869232)
From the article :

o3 (low) 75.7% 335K $20

o3 (high) 87.5% 57M $3.4K

Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by mrandish on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @03:16PM (#42870564)
When I saw these numbers back in the initial o3-ARC post, I immediately converted them into "$ per ARC-AGI-1 %" and concluded we may be at a point where each increased increment of 'real human-like novel reasoning' gets exponentially more compute costly.

If Mike Knoop is correct, maybe R1 is pointing the way toward more efficient approaches. That would certainly be a good thing. This whole DeepSeek release and the reactions have shown by limiting the export to China of high-end GPUs, the US incentivized China to figure out how to make low-end GPUs work really well. The more subtle meta-lesson here is that the massive flood of investment capital being shoved toward leading edge AI companies has fostered a drag race mentality which prioritized winning top-line performance far above efficiency, costs, etc.

Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by jl6 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:36PM (#42870029)
$3.4K is about what you might pay a magic circle lawyer for an opinion on a matter. Not saying o3 is an efficient use of resources, just saying that it’s not outlandish that a sufficiently good AI could be worth that kind of money.
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by victorbjorklund on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @04:09PM (#42871178)
You pay that price to a law firm to get good service and to get a "guarantee" of correctness. You get neither from an LLM. Not saying it is not worth anything but you cant compare it to a top law firm.
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by nl on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @08:57PM (#42873893)
You absolutely do not get a "guarantee" of correctness (event with the airquotes) from any lawyer.
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by manquer on Thursday January 30, 2025 @06:38AM (#42876897)
You can sue a lawyer giving certain kinds of bad advice and occasionally win . That is what the guarantee is about
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by bobxmax on Thursday January 30, 2025 @08:29AM (#42877480)
You can probably sue Open AI for getting bad legal advice from ChatGPT too.
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by throw-qqqqq on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:48PM (#42880145)
Sure, but can you also win the case ;)?

On the bottom of ChatGPT.com I see a disclaimer: “ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info”.

I don’t think you can succesfully sue with such caveat emptor.

Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by ant6n on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @03:31PM (#42870763)
What’s the liability insurance of the AI like
Re:An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1 by baq on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @05:21PM (#42872016)
Refer to IBM’s 1979 slide for details on that