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Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by ge96 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:51AM (#42866444)
Tin foil hat, anyone run it and use wireshark to see if it doesn't make external requests (unless it had to like a browser agent)
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by exitb on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:58AM (#42866567)
It’s just numbers. You use other open source software to run it.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by paxys on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:10AM (#42866749)
It's not even "can". You have to use your own software to run it. DeepSeek hasn't published anything other than the model weights.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by NBJack on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:12AM (#42866796)
The model is. How it is packaged is a different matter entirely. There is a good reason we saw a shift towards the safetensors format.

https://arjancodes.com/blog/python-pickle-module-security-ri...

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by nexus_six on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:17AM (#42866889)
I've done this (not thoroughly by any means) with OpenSnitch on the Ubuntu machine I have ollama installed on running the 32b R1 weights. No network traffic.

I'm not entirely sure if it is possible to do some type of code execution like that in just the weights themselves, though someone else who knows a bit more about this can weigh in here.

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by ru552 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:27AM (#42867077)
It's been confirmed to run on a machine with no internet access. So it isn't reliant on external requests, though it could still be trying to make them.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by marcodiego on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:10AM (#42866759)
Isn't DeepSeek simple/small enough you can run it locally?
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by zbendefy on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:44AM (#42867393)
No, the full R1 model is ~650GB. There are quantized version that quantize it down to ~150GB.

What you can run locally are the distilled models, that is actually LLama and Qwen weights further trained on R1's output

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by deepsquirrelnet on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:16AM (#42866867)
At least a TB of VRAM to load it in fp16. They distilled to smaller models, which do not perform as well, but can be run on a single GPU. Full R1 is big though.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by nickthegreek on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:14AM (#42879157)
fp16? I thought it was trained at fp8.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by derektank on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:08AM (#42866726)
Yeah, I would want to double check and confirm they're using safe serialization methods at the very least before using the weights from any model released by a Chinese entity