I think it is a knee-jerk reaction without understanding how LLMs work. The beauty of all of this is, we can use DeepSeek and still give the CCP the middle finger. I don't know why people don't realize we can easily add a layer above DeepSeek to never ask it for political/historical information and we can easily create services to do this.

We should be celebrating what is happening as this might force OpenAI and Anthropic to lower prices. DeepSeek is FAR from perfect and it would be stupid to not continue relying on other models, and if DeepSeek can force a price change, I'm all for it.

They release the weights so it can be fine tuned to censor/uncensor for your locale and preferences.

People have been talking about the Chinese like automotons of the government with no agency of their own for a long time now. However it's the same for all of humanity. In China in the Mao era, the slogan was to free the Western capitalist society from repression. It's the same old talking about enemy camp and assigning no free will to the people.

All this is to say, people here don't think of the Chinese as equals. That is the real core of racism, not about saying something against the protected race of the day.

I mean shocker: large language model trained in mainland China may have censorship around topics considered politically sensitive by Chinese government, more news at 11. Can we move on?

But it's also an easy low-hanging fruit if you want to add a comment to a Hacker News Post that you otherwise don't know anything about.

but yes I am tired of seeing this kind of "news". they don't carry much useful information, more like noise nowadays

This is pretty much the same thing on a national scale. US discourse in particular is increasingly petty, bully-like, disrespectful, ignorant or straight up hostile as seen with the tone concerning Indian tech workers recently. Even Latin Americans or Europeans aren't safe from it any more. I'm afraid we're only at the start of this rather than the end as China and others catch up or even lead in some domains.

If you want to learn about Tiananmen Square then try reading the book Deng Xiaoping and the Transformation of China by Ezra F. Vogel and Eric Jason Martin.

Amazing book.

Of course, I imagine the people asking this really don't care about Tienanmen Square or China anyway.

It is really someone just being an obnoxious child.

Im mean, there are so many evidences about this, right? unlike gaza genocide which are totally misinformation by russian bots without any credits(I should not talk about things like this, and I think this by my free will)

there are so many photos and videos shows the ccp massacre and genocide

i mean, there is a tank man photo proven this, oh poor guy must be squashed crudely

i don't need to read books, wikipedia and tankman told me everything

it's so terrible and horrible, damn you ccp, I'll expose your sins in every thread about china, by my free will and free speech