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Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by nxm on Saturday January 25, 2025 @05:38PM (#42825631)
Back then anyone who suggested the lab leak theory was immediately labeled a conspiracy theorist by main stream media.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by arp242 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @08:11PM (#42826746)
The major reason for that is that many were doing this in language that was generally considered racist and/or mixed in some other weird stuff like how COVID lockdowns were like the Jewish persecution, rants about masking, or that type of stuff. I'm not saying everyone did that, but there was a huge overlap.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by lolinder on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:31PM (#42827720)
> there was a huge overlap.

There was a huge overlap because within a month it became completely taboo for anyone who cared about not being seen as an alt-right activist to say anything about it. Even freaking Jon Stewart got caught in the instant-cancellation blast [0].

A major problem with our world today is that anything that the alt right supports instantly becomes taboo for the rest of us. People are more concerned with distancing themselves from the alt right than they are with finding and supporting the truth—and that goes for just about anything, not just COVID.

[0] https://nypost.com/2023/02/28/jon-stewart-recalls-outrage-af...

Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by morepedantic on Sunday January 26, 2025 @02:56AM (#42828533)
Have you considered the possibility that you infer racism more often than people imply it?
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by Johanx64 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @06:50PM (#42826198)
Not just main stream media. Your average javascript programmer engaged in the same antics whenever policies regarding covid were questioned.

These censorship policies wouldn't be nearly as widespread if they weren't popular among the middle of the bellcurve "I can write javascript therefore I must be very smart" type people

Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by gejose on Sunday January 26, 2025 @12:09AM (#42827859)
Did a javascript programmer hurt you?
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by starspangled on Sunday January 26, 2025 @01:07AM (#42828096)
Many.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by steveBK123 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @05:58PM (#42825806)
Yes and I’m saying that was bad.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by philjohn on Saturday January 25, 2025 @07:30PM (#42826470)
Were they? Or were those who claimed it was the only possible answer, without the evidence to back that up?
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by mrcsharp on Saturday January 25, 2025 @08:07PM (#42826722)
That's not a good enough reason to censor.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by AngryData on Saturday January 25, 2025 @08:38PM (#42826875)
99% of the time there isn't a good reason to censor things, that doesn't stop it from happening constantly though. Especially in China where censorship of anything with bad publicity for the country or government or people is the default stance.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by gigatree on Saturday January 25, 2025 @06:25PM (#42826011)
Hopefully this helps people realize how meaningless it is to be labeled a conspiracy theorist.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by PoignardAzur on Saturday January 25, 2025 @06:42PM (#42826136)
I think the conspiracy theorist label is associated with common patterns (believing in a cover up in cases where there's no incentive / the cover up would be more expensive than the crime / the evidence would be impossible to cover up, etc) but in this case these patterns don't apply.

The lab leak theory was extremely plausible even assuming no secret conspiracy at all. Lab leaks do happen, that lab did do gain of function research, the State did shut down investigations, etc.

Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by gigatree on Saturday January 25, 2025 @07:11PM (#42826335)
You might be surprised how many things labeled conspiracy theories have strong evidence, incentives, etc. but get scoffed at as kooky impossibilities nonetheless - like the lab leak theory.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by gtgvdfc on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:29PM (#42827707)
Out how many conspiracy theories end up being right.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by indoordin0saur on Monday January 27, 2025 @11:28AM (#42842800)
I think when it comes to conspiracy theories the two heuristics to use are:

1.) Do they have an incentive to conspire?

2.) Do they have the ability to conspire?

Where both are true I think conspiracies exist every where, often to such an extent it just gets labelled as corruption rather than conspiracy.

Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by DonHopkins on Saturday January 25, 2025 @07:04PM (#42826290)
Well if the wanted to be taken more seriously, then maybe they shouldn't have been spouting so many other ridiculous implausible conspiracy theories, denying evolution and climate change, injecting disinfectant, and popping horse dewormer pills, then eventually denying the results of the election.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by subsistence234 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @09:01PM (#42826998)
it's always easier to dismiss imaginary strawmen than real people.
Re:CIA Now Favors Lab Leak Theory to Explain Covid's Origins by gtgvdfc on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:18PM (#42827668)
Who's "they"? You just grabbed a bunch of different arguments you disagree with and then bunched them all together with the lab leak.

Btw, I wouldn't remind people of "horse dewormer" debacle I were you - you come off as anti-science.